1 877-431-4276Jonatan Proietti | Nueva Generación de Evangelistas
Jonatan Proietti is organizing evangelism groups across Latin America for the Global Network of Evangelists or as it is known in Latin America, the Nueva Generación de Evangelistas . His father worked with Luis Palau for many decades and now Jonatan is continuing the family legacy by working with Andrew Palau. Today we talk about what God is doing through Spanish speaking evangelists.
Join the Nueva Generación de Evangelistas: https://ngepalau.org/
Follow Jonatan Proietti on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonatanproietti/?hl=en
Transcript:
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (00:00):
Welcome to the Evangelism Podcast. I’m Daniel King, and I’m excited about telling people about Jesus. Today I have a very special guest with me, Jonathan Prot. Yes. And he is the Latin American Coordinator, director of the Global Network of Evangelists. I am the, the group of evangelists, which is under the ministry of Luis Pau. And I have the honor of serving on the cabinet of the global network of Evangelists along with you. And I’ve been hearing so much about what God is doing here in Latin America among the evangelists. Thank you so much for being on the Evangelism Podcast. And, and tell me what is God doing?
Jonatan Proietti (00:46):
Daniel, thank you for having me. Thank you for this time. It’s an honor to share here. And yes, we are by the grace of God, serving the Lord directing the laing ex laing expression of the global network of evangelists. You know, God gave Luis a vision to serve all the evangelists after him. We call, we call the, the Latin expression, the Spanish expression which the translates a new generation of evangelists. This is the same, but we changed the name and the Lord gave Luis that vision and, and he gave us the way of doing like the model. And it’s to raise a network of evangelists in each city coordinated by the local team. So thanks to the grace of God through the Louis ministry and my dad’s ministry for many, many years, faithfulness confidence and all that.
(01:44):
We know people. So we can go to them and say, Hey, this is the vision. This is, this is what God gave us, and we want to serve you. What do you think to the, you know, the alliance’s heads and, and leaders and stuff. So they, they, they embrace the vision and they help us find faithful people that, evangelist pastors, leaders that can take this vision and just serve in their country because they know their culture. They know the people. They love their people more than we had my, my love them. They, they know them. So who, who would be best to serving than them? So we invest in a local team. We coach them, we guide them, and, and, and we help them serve their evangelists. So that’s what we do. It, we affirm, we equip, we, we mobilize and we identify evangelists all over the Hispanic world in that way.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (02:34):
And you are perfect for this. You are from Argentina. I am. And of course brother Luis Pau was from Argentina, and today we had the opportunity to go to a historic spot. Yes. It we are in Bogota, Columbia. And so we went to the presidential palace. We, we saw the, the Senate house, and right in front of the Senate house, there are some steps, and then there’s a, a big plaza there. Yeah. And it was in that place. Yeah. That Luis Pau did his first big crusade back in 1966. And I’m a student of evangelism. Of the history of evangelism. In fact, I did my, my doctorate and we studied some of the history. And I remember seeing the picture of Louise Plow standing on those steps. And he’s got his <laugh>. He’s out there preaching the gospel. He’s young. Yes. And he’s preaching. And, and so, but from right here in Bogota, Columbia mm-hmm. <Affirmative>, the ministry of Louise Palau went all over the world. And in Latin America, of course, everyone knows who he is. And, and he’s done crusades in al in festivals in almost every Yeah. Yeah. City all over Latin America. And your father actually was connected with him, very instrumental in helping to organize the events here. Sure. So tt talk to me a little bit about the partnership between your father and brother Palau.
Jonatan Proietti (03:58):
Well, they were intimate friends. I mean, best friends, they were that good friends that they went to be with the Lord in the same year with si six months different, you know, in 2021. So yeah, we were here everything started for Luis in 66. Can you
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (04:15):
Imagine what a time they’re having in heaven? Yeah. Right. <Laugh>, I, I mean, they, I’m sure they’re sharing stories. Yeah. They are so excited. <Laugh>, you know,
Jonatan Proietti (04:23):
The only thing you can’t do in heaven is evangelism. So they
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (04:26):
Did, they have no job. This is the real
Jonatan Proietti (04:28):
Retirement. They gotta a whole alive to evangelists, what they’re doing now. Right. Who are they bordering? So Andrew Palau was born here, two in 66 and 52 years later, 2018, Andrew Palau and a servant, because I interpreted for him in all his Hispanic events, were in that same plaza, preaching the gospel wow. To a lot of people. So that, that is history, and that is amazing. And that is a privilege. But coming to my dad, he joined the team in 78 when, when the Louis Palau Evangelistic Association formally started like that. So we can say that Luis and my dad were together for, you know, when everything started formally for them from the very, very beginning. And they were so good great friends. My dad directed the ministry for the Laing world. And, and, and when I was born, I mean, I, I, I, I was born breathing evangelism in my
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (05:31):
House. You were born into the ministry. Yeah.
Jonatan Proietti (05:33):
Right. Like, you know, a Christian and the little PA association. So I came formally and full-time and officially to the team in 2018. I’m an accountant and, and I had a, you know work on that, but always in the ministry and always wanted to serve the Lord full-time. And I didn’t never imagine that this was going to be the, the, the call and, and, and how he would do so. So yeah. It’s, it’s, it’s 43 years together. My dad and Louis just, you know,
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (06:02):
That’s one of the things I so love about the Palau ministry is this legacy of ministry that extends across decades. And the longer I’m in ministry, the more I think that God honors faithfulness. Yes. And Brother Pau was faithful. Your father was faithful. And then God is also a generational God. He’s the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. And so it’s so neat now to see Kevin Pau and Andrew Pau taking up the baton. Correct. And you also, I am taking up the baton here in Latin America. What a privilege. Yes. To continue to serve the Lord for the second generation. Yes. And I believe for many generations to come, yes, we will see God do amazing things. It’s a
Jonatan Proietti (06:51):
Privilege. It’s a privilege. There are pictures of my, you know, my, my dad and Louise, and me and Andrew, and, and they say, oh, you know, you’re taking on your dad’s steps. That’s a lot. You know, I, I sometimes can’t just get what that means. And, and just praying the Lord, and just saying, Lord, what do you want? I mean, make me humble. Make me all, all the time, look for you and just, you know have that intimacy with you to all the time understand what I have to do and, and, and how to do it. But, but yes, I mean, the future looks amazing. And then that’s
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (07:25):
Privilege. I mean, they say that God has no grandchildren. He only has children. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. And so every generation has to choose to serve God for our generation. Yeah. And our generation has so many needs. Things are changing a lot here in Latin America right now. Yeah. And what you’re trying to do is to raise up a new generation of evangelists. Yeah. I I mean, we, we need many different expressions of evangelism Yeah. In order to, to reach people in this day mm-hmm. <Affirmative>. And, and so let’s talk more about like what you’re doing to, to raise up evangelists mm-hmm. <Affirmative>, we’re here in Columbia. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, you’ve gathered together people that have a, a gifting of evangelism. How, how many people approximately here in Columbia that we
Jonatan Proietti (08:10):
Know, we are counting like 200 and, and plus. 200 plus.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (08:14):
And so these are people that they have a, a calling, a gift for evangelism on their heart. And sometimes evangelists, they, they, they have a heart for evangelism, but they don’t quite fit into the church. The church doesn’t quite understand them. And, and they need the fellowship. Yes. And, and that, and I think God is actually raising up Latin America in a new way. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, that Latin America is going to send out missionaries. Amen. God told me years ago that the, the mission field shall become a mission force. Years ago, Latin in America was considered a mission field, but now there are stronger churches here than sometimes in America.
Jonatan Proietti (08:56):
We’re, we are experiencing that already. We were, last year, we were in Manchester, in the uk. And, and the, and we gathered the Latins. There, there were a few, not much. And they were saying, the Lord called us to the, to the, to the land that first came to us and gave us the gospel. So we are coming back to just, you know, to do with them what they did with us. And that was amazing. I almost, I was crying, you know, it was binge of laing people from different countries here. And that’s happening. That’s, that’s, that’s happening. We are, I love that. The Laing feel is now Laing four.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (09:34):
The, the mission field. The mission shall become a mission force mission.
Jonatan Proietti (09:38):
It’s, it’s happening. I mean, the Lord p he’s grace is using us to, to enlight the rest of the nations and just to, to bring them back to what it was their, the, their, their, their ancient glory. So, so it I’m seeing it. My, my generation is, is, is, is is witnessing it.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (09:55):
Now, the Palau team just did a great event in Costa Rica. Yeah. Tell me about that. What happened in Costa Rica?
Jonatan Proietti (10:01):
That, that was amazing. I mean, you can just see the pictures. I mean, thousands of people, the church in Costa Rica is really unified. I mean, we, we got surprised of how they, they worked and, and how they served and came together. And that’s pretty much the festival means. I mean, we don’t go if, if we don’t receive an invitation, and the Tention needs to be reflected in unity, because if not, there’s no festival, because there’s no unity. And that’s the key. That’s the, the secret sausage of, of, of salvation. You know John 17, Jesus asking for unity, but he’s not asking for unity. He’s asking for the lost, you know, the unity is, is a, is a meme to, to salvation. And, and that’s what we do in festivals in Costa Rgo is amazing. Be bu Ours was in November last year. We
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (10:48):
Yeah. Tell me about that. That that’s your hometown.
Jonatan Proietti (10:50):
Yeah. And, and that was the first festival without dad, my dad and without Luis. Wow. And after pandemic. So it was the first one in many, many. Were you a
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (10:58):
Little nervous?
Jonatan Proietti (11:01):
We were like, business, Jesus, please help us, bring them lords. Breathe them from, yeah. Yeah. And, and it was a blast. It was, it was amazing. And we were, we, we saw a lot of, of harvest. Yeah. The Lord’s good. Lord’s good. That’s awesome. He, he’s, it was a, it was a sign of, you know, supporting, I mean, from him, you know, without Louis, without my dad in Argentina, the leadership there is, is great, but, you know, is, is complicated in some ways. You understand what I mean? I’m from there. So so it was, it was so, the Lord with a lot of other things is saying, you know, I’m here. This is not, this is not a name thing. This is not a some people thing. This is my thing and I support it. And, and I’m with you. And that’s what we saw. And then Costa Rica came after and there was another great, great success. And we’ll see that. That’s what we are seeing.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (12:04):
That’s so awesome that the Palau team is continuing to invest in Latin America. And Brother Pau was so loved here by so many people. Yeah. And, and now a new generation has come.
Jonatan Proietti (12:21):
Amen. But
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (12:22):
I believe that in our day, we will see just as great a harvest and even a greater harvest Yeah. That the evangelists of the past only dreamed of. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, I think the greatest harvest of souls in history will happen in just the next few years. Amen. Amen. And I believe that God will raise up an army of evangelists all over Latin America that will have a heart for evangelism, a heart for reaching people. And so I’m, I’m so excited about what you’re doing. I pray for God to give you wisdom, to bring the right people alongside to help. And what would you say to evangelists? Maybe someone is listening, they, they’re in Latin America and they want to get connected Oh, yeah. To the g and e. How can they get connected to the Latin American expression of the g and e? Yeah.
Jonatan Proietti (13:09):
You should come on board. I mean, we all need to be together. We need community, and we make a great emphasis in community, having relationship with people alike that has the same challenges, but also the, the similar strength and, and, and and, and abilities and the unique you can share with them. And they understand what you’re thinking, what you’re going through. So common on board, we are trained to go to every country and just raise an army. There a network there where you can feel a good and you can just maximize your efforts for the Kingdom website, www dot nge palau.org social media at Nge Palau, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube. And when you go to the website, go to a place called Community Nge, and you can just fill a form. It’s quick, it’s, it’s fast. And you can know where the others, the other ones are. Just get connected, get in touch, and get in touch with us so we can serve you best. Don’t waste this opportunity to be part of what God is doing, and we are so blessed with us.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (14:18):
Well, brother Jonah, thank you so much for being on the Evangelism Podcast. Thank you. It’s so great to have you together. And it’s so good to be here in Bogota, Columbia together, and I’m excited to see what God will do, raising up evangelists here in Latin America. Thank you. God
Jonatan Proietti (14:35):
Bless you. It was an honor. Thank you, brother.
Subscribe to The Evangelism Podcast on Apple iTunes
Listen to The Evangelism Podcast on Spotify
Subscribe to The Evangelism Podcast on Google Podcasts
Find The Evangelism Podcast on Stitcher
Listen to The Evangelism Podcast on Amazon Audible
The Evangelism Podcast is also available on iHeartRadio
Reggie van Dinter | Evangelism in the United Kingdom
Reggie and Angela van Dinter are missionary evangelists to the UK and Europe. They love reaching out to the least, the last, and the lost. Listen today as Reggie talks about the challenges and rewards of training evangelists in the United Kingdom.
Connect with Reggie van Dinter: https://arministries.co.uk/
Transcript:
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (00:00):
Welcome to the Evangelism Podcast. I’m Daniel King, and I’m excited about telling people about Jesus Today. I have a very special guest with me, Reggie Van Dinter, thank you so much for joining me on the Evangelism Podcast.
Reggie van Dinter (00:12):
It’s such an honor to be here. Thank you so much for the invitation.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (00:15):
So you are originally from the Netherlands. Yes. But you’re serving God as a missionary to the United Kingdom. You and your wife Angela are living there. And right now we are in Bogota, Columbia for a collaborative crusade event. 12 different cities are having crusades at the same time. And you’re doing one of the cities and I’m doing one in the cities. So what are you excited about today, Reggie?
Reggie van Dinter (00:41):
So actually we’re on Alejandro’s team. So we, we, we join Alejandro to to Santa Mata. So that’s incredible. What I’m excited about today is, my goodness, this is the first time that I’m actually putting food in a presidential house. And actually with all of the evangelists together going and prayer, walking across the presidential buildings is absolutely amazing. I mean, I see that as a absolutely God divine moment, like a divine God incident. You know, sometimes people speak about, oh yeah, that’s a coincidence. No, I don’t believe in coincidence. I believe in God incidences, and this is very much a God incident. You know, God really orchestrated this. I’m just really excited you know, to just pray a walk, you know, those buildings and just proclaiming the, proclaiming the good news of Jesus over the Presidential House. And at the same time, you know, when we go up to the mountain to go and pray over the city with all of us, it’s gonna be incredible. I’m, I’m just so excited. Yesterday I was in a plane. I was so buzzing at the moment that we arrived in Mexico already. I was like, Angela, I’m so excited. We’re, we’re, I’m actually in Latin America now because Mexico is Latin America as well. And yeah, I’m, I’m just, yeah, I’m just so expecting, you know, so many things that I can share, but then we sit here for a whole day.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (02:05):
So tell me about your ministry and what you feel called by God to do
Reggie van Dinter (02:10):
So. Our ministry has pretty much various vision. So our heart is evangelism, missions discipleship, unity social action. My wife is, my wife is a real a real activist. She loves to just invest, investing people like one on one you know, feeding the poor, looking after children orphanages and, and yeah. So, so we’ve kind of incorporated that, that in our ministry to kind of like set up kind of like a mercy ministry as part of, you know, preaching the gospel because yeah, that’s, that’s very much what’s part of, of, of what we do. So and also co consultancy, because we both have been in ministry altogether about 30 plus years, me like 10 plus years in evangelistic being involved. I’ve been a youth pastor in an ALG church, so I, I worked as a youth pastor as well full-time.
(03:06):
So we, we’ve combined our experience in ministry and God really gave us a ministry to, to basically help churches to look more outward focused. And and, and I think one of the things that’s very key in our you know, in our ministry is to be kind of like revivalist, I would say, you know, our heart is to revitalize churches that are on the brink of dying. That that may be on the brink of like, kind of like say, well, we don’t know what to do anymore. How do we reach our local community? That’s where we come in. That’s where we like, Hey, come on. You know, we want to come alongside you and we want to strategize and plan a, you know, vision cast of how we can reach a local community for Jesus. So we’ve recently done a mission in Birmingham in the uk.
(03:52):
We’ve come alongside. Yeah, tell me about that. What, what did God do in Birmingham? So so we went in Birmingham. We, we, so at one point we had a friend telling us, why don’t you send emails to churches and introduce your ministry and introduce what you do so that people get to know what you do and stuff. So we, I, so basically I went through all of the, a OG churches in the uk, sent a whole list. <Laugh> sent a, sent, sent an email introducing a ministry to like more than 500 churches in the ALG network in the uk. And and just see what happens. This particular church reached out, was an ALG church in Birmingham, west Bromwich actually, which is an area. And they said, well, we’re, we’re organizing a eastern mission the fifth till the 9th of April. Do you think you will be able to, to do this?
(04:35):
Would you be able to come alongside us and, and, and do a mission with us? So me and my wife talked about it. We did, and we yeah, we, we, we organized this mission with the church. We’ve got a team of people together precious friends of ours, or in each individually run their own ministry, their evangelistic ministry. We’ve got friends who are like like spiritual father and mother sort. They’re very much on identity. So we did a school of evangelism for three days with this church from like the fifth till the seventh April. We trained and equipped them in, in all areas of evangelism. We train and equip them about identity, you know, knowing who we are in Christ, that we have a, you know, an inheritance as sons and daughters. Cuz I, I’m really convinced that it’s so important when we do evangelism schools, that we teach on everything, like all the basics of Christian life, what it means to be a son and a daughter, and to walk in the authority and the power that God has given us.
(05:29):
You know, to, to raise the dad, to heal the sick, to cast out demons. And because in the western world, there’s quite a lot of people that, that find it difficult to like find, okay, well am I called to evangelize? You know, not, yes, you have evangelists that are there to equip the saints, but everybody is called to witness. Everybody is called to share Jesus on a daily basis for people. So this is what we taught in this school. We went out on the street every day. We had some stepping out for the very first time, sharing the gospel with a total stranger.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (06:02):
And how did people respond on the streets of Birmingham
Reggie van Dinter (06:06):
Very
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (06:06):
Openly? Did you get cussed at, did you get argued with or were people receptive?
Reggie van Dinter (06:11):
So we have people recept, so West Bromage, the town centers very multicultural. So there’s Hindus, there’s Muslims, there’s Buddhist, there’s atheist. There was even there was even one of the pastor and one of our team members had a chat with a guy who said he was an atheist, but also like followed all sorts of like satanic rituals and all this sort of stuff. And so yeah, a one’s belief, but I don’t anymore. So I think what, what we’ve seen on the streets is people receptive, people not receptive. We’ve seen people literally cursing at us like, what are you doing here? Just get the, be out. You know, when you, you don’t belong here and why don’t you come here preaching the gospel to us, you know, you’re preaching a dead God. No, we’re preaching a God. There’s a life because he does miracles. We’ve seen healings on the streets. We’ve seen people get healed from, from back pains, you know, neck pains, all of that on the street. It was absolutely incredible.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (07:07):
Wow. What a tremendous testimony to know that God is working not only here in Latin America, but also in Great Britain. Exactly. And in Europe, I I think it’s time for a great awakening come on in Europe and for God to pour out his Holy Spirit Yeah. Upon that continent. Definitely. just in month we’re going to be in Amsterdam and there’s going to be evangelists coming together from all over Europe and, and really all over the world for Amsterdam 2023. Yeah. And I believe that we’re going to, to see a, a spark that’s going to ignite a great revival across Europe. Yeah. And some people say that Europe is post-Christian, but I like to say it is pre-Christian. We’re ready to, it’s ready to see a great move of God in Europe. Yeah. And so tell me some about your, your business. I, I read on your website that you do social media, that you have expertise in the area of digital marketing and that type of thing. How do you integrate that into the ministry that God has called you to?
Reggie van Dinter (08:12):
So well the, the way how I, I integrated in the ministry that God has calling to, because, you know, because I’m an evangelist, I use social media at the shadow gospel. So my Facebook would be full of like, scriptures would be full of like live Facebook stuff over covid. My wife and I started doing worship and intercession evening. So we literally went online on our, on our Facebook page and just worshiped Jesus and give the opportunity for people to message in, to receive prayer. So we’ve did that for like two years in a row during the, the two years of Covid when we were in lockdown. And we’ve seen, we’ve, we’ve heard of testimonies of people getting healed and delivered during, during these worship and intercession stuff. And also we run online evangelism mission school. So we did that via Zoom. So it was absolutely incredible. We graduated 27 students, of which two of them went on to go to the Cfam Bootcamp. So who
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (09:08):
Was that that went to the bootcamp?
Reggie van Dinter (09:11):
Well, so so there’s a lady called Virginia. Okay. Another lady called Dubbo. Okay. they went to the boot camp, they did our online evangelism school. And they,
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (09:22):
That’s wonderful. I, I get to teach at the Christ for All Nations Evangelism Bootcamp every year and it keeps pushing out evangelists that are on fire and excited about taking Jesus to the world. And so I, I see that across the body of Christ, there are a whole new generation of evangelists which are being raised up. Yeah. That God is calling the church to evangelism. And I think that over the next decade, the goal of the church should be to reach every single person on earth with the gospel. That our generation could be the generation that fulfills the great Commission. And in order to do that, we need more evangelists in the body of Christ. And so, no, definitely. Thank you so much for helping to train and, and raise up evangelists. What are some of those key messages that you are trying to impart to those that you’re, you’re training to be evangelists?
Reggie van Dinter (10:19):
So one of the key messages is that, you know, it’s about knowing who we are in Christ and knowing that we are sons and daughters. And also one of the other key messages would be is, you know, it’s really important that we work on our character. Cuz you know, you can go out on the streets evangelize and stuff like that and, you know, be full on preaching the gospel and, but actually lacking a lot of character and Sally enough, there are people out there in the world that, that, that are great evangelists and very much the younger ones as well. But some, some of the times in some, some areas of their lives, they just lack kind of like mentorship and lack. We need more mentors. We need, we need more fathers and we need more mothers. So I think also one of the most important things that I would say is it’s important to be part of a local church.
(11:23):
You know, we can’t have lone Rangers running around and, and, and, and, and, and not having a base where they belong to. So I think one of the key messages as well is find a place where you belong, where you have people that care about you, that love you, that know what it is about, you know, that have gone through the, you know, through the misery, have gone through the, the tribulations of, you know, being in ministry and and also give it time cuz you know, sometimes God takes a bit of time for you to get ready to eventually be launched into, you know, into a full-time evangelistic ministry. Like, for example, me, I’m still working full-time. I’m not saying I’m there. I’m still learning. I have mentors, I have I, I’ve kind of like spiritual fathers a spiritual father, so my pastor is kind of like spiritual father to me.
(12:19):
Who, who really just gets what he’s a pastor, but he is evangelistic at heart. So he gets the, the, the, the drive to see people saved. And he, he, he very much invests in, in my life. We have, our ministry is part of an apostolic ministry called Freedom Fire Ministries. So the guys who are part of I told you earlier Andy Chairman Goland they run a ministry, they’re part of the apostolic network of global awakening, so they’re ordained on the Ren Clark. So they’ve been kind of like mans to us. They’ve been pass, sort of pastoring us on a, on a, on a regular basis. And they’re coming up to our first vision and implementation brunch that we’re having in July where we’re gonna introduce people to our ministry share you know, what we’ve been doing here over the last few years and all the plants and stuff. We’re not there yet. You know, we’re growing, you know, our ministry is growing. We’ve, we’ve only just come around the corner basically. But what I’ve learned from the years of ministry that I’ve already done is it’s so important to have spiritual fathers and mothers standing around all these young evangelists and raising them up, you know, mothering and fathering them to maturity.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (13:34):
Amen. Yeah. Well, I think it’s wonderful what you’re, you’re doing to raise up evangelist and God has put it in your heart to be an evangelist and to raise up evangelists. And so I encourage you in that if someone wants to learn more about your ministry or be a part of what God is doing through your ministry, what is your website? What’s a good way for them to get in touch with you?
Reggie van Dinter (13:57):
So a good way to get in touch. So our website is ww dot www dot a r m sorry, ar ministries.co uk. So that’s our ministry website. Obviously you can find us on Facebook, arm International can find us obviously our personal Facebook den or Angela Vanden. And yeah, I mean we’re, we’re open to, to work with anyone that, that is hungry for Jesus and that wants to impact our communities. For us, it’s not just about the one-to-one evangelism for us, it’s about the long-term and the longevity of the impact in communities. So we, we would love to do like festivals like similar to Louis Palau. So we’re doing one in August in in Our Town. So we’re looking at that doing like a mini festival where we do like a week of evangelism
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (14:46):
In in the
Reggie van Dinter (14:47):
Uk Yeah, in the UK in Rochdale where we live. So Rochdale is sadly known, has been in the news a lot for like grooming, like, and stuff like that. So Asian people that will, Asian men that will groom young girls and all this sort of stuff. It’s been massively nationwide in the news. The town is known as the most deprived town in all of the uk so it’s in the top list of, of deprived towns. So God placed us there and to, to make an, you know, to bring an impact in the community and to, so, so, so we basically are actually, after we leave here for Columbia there’s a chance that we have a new house literally in the middle of, of the roughest estate of, of, of the town. Because, you know, we want to reach people and to reach, in order to reach people. We have decided that we want to live in an estate, in a rough estate to actually build relationship with the people in the estate to build long lasting relationships, get them saved, get them discipled and plant a church.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (15:44):
That’s awesome. Well, I believe it will be a great success and I think it’s wonderful that you’re reaching out to the uk. Yeah. May God give you a great harvest of soul in Jesus’ name.
Reggie van Dinter (15:56):
Thank you so
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (15:56):
Much. Well, brother Reggie, thank you so much for being on the Evangelism podcast. Yeah. It’s
Reggie van Dinter (16:00):
Been so lovely. Thank you.
Subscribe to The Evangelism Podcast on Apple iTunes
Listen to The Evangelism Podcast on Spotify
Subscribe to The Evangelism Podcast on Google Podcasts
Find The Evangelism Podcast on Stitcher
Listen to The Evangelism Podcast on Amazon Audible
The Evangelism Podcast is also available on iHeartRadio
Clown for Christ | Chagy the Clown
Can God use clowns? In today’s Evangelism Podcast I talk to Chagy the Clown. He has studied with Ringling Brothers & Barnum and Bailey Circus and performed with Cirque du Soleil. Now he is using his talent for juggling and doing illusions to bring people to Jesus through the power of humor.
Learn more about Chagy the Clown: http://www.chagy.com/
Transcript:
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (00:00):
Welcome to the Evangelism Podcast. I’m Daniel King, and I’m excited about telling people about Jesus today. I have a very special guest. I’ve never had a guest like this on the podcast before. Chagy the Clown. Thank you for being on the Evangelism Podcast!
Chagy – the Clown for Christ (00:15):
Yeah, baby. We’re excited. We’re just like, excited to, to do what God want us to do, you know? So we are here, what, what, what we need to learn today.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (00:25):
Now, I love meeting you and love hearing about what you do because I got started in ministry doing clown ministry. Okay. My parents were missionaries in Mexico, and we were going out on the streets trying to get the kids to come to the church. And we found that a great way to attract the kids was to put on a clown suit, put on horrible looking makeup, and we would run through the streets and, and the kids would come, and then we would be dressed up at clowns at the church, and, and the kids expected us to do something. So me and, and my brother, we started being funny and entertaining the kids. Yes. And so the whole first 10 years of my ministry dressing up like a clown. And so we learned to juggle ride unicycles, ventriloquism. And you’ve been doing that, but at a very high level, kind of talk to me about your experience. Okay. In, in doing clowning. Well,
Chagy – the Clown for Christ (01:15):
First you need to understand that the Bible talks about clowns.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (01:19):
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Chagy – the Clown for Christ (01:20):
Why did you say that? In first Corinthian 1 27, it says, for God has chosen the foolish things of this world to confound the wises. So yeah. With the foolish <laugh>, so, no. But we just started, I started 30 years ago actually in Puerto Rico. It was, I was trying to find a way to reach people in the streets. And I was a missionary for Puerto Rico in the Caribbean. And I, I saw all these evangelists in the streets doing evangelists the old way, which in some places it works. But in my country back then the people will not stop. We had this evangelist in the street, were screaming to the people and saying, you gonna go to hell If you’re not, you don’t, you don’t receive Christ. It, it was this kind of aggressive way to reach people that I don’t remember Jesus being aggressive that way.
(02:13):
And so I said, how can I stand in the middle of the street and do something and have everybody come? And so from there, I said, I started exploring different ways, juggling illusion. And then I saw somebody doing clowning. I remember somebody doing clowning, and I asked that person, I said, can you teach me how to do a little bit clowning? And he said, yeah, yeah. So he just got all this stuff and put me in clowning. And then something happened inside of me. It’s like it was a click. I went out there, and when I started doing clowning, people went crazy. And people will stop from, from 30.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (02:48):
So you make ’em laugh, then tell them they’re going to hell. What?
Chagy – the Clown for Christ (02:51):
No. Yeah. But I will make a bridge Yeah. To get to their heart. So I build a bridge to get to their heart with all this stuff, and then I will tell ’em and say, you know we have sin. We separated from God. But I, it was an easier way to bring the gospel. And that year, immediately I received a flyer and said, Hey, here, there’s a flyer. Because for me, it was important. I said, like, if I’m gonna do this, I have to be professional because I’m trying to reach the people, and I need to compete with what the evil is providing for, for the people, the social media, everything out there. The professional people are doing so good. They, they are attracting people. So I said, how can I be so professional? And then I found this training where I learned how to do clowning with people, retired staff from ringing brothers.
(03:44):
There were seven of them were in the clown Hall of Fame. And I got there, and the Lord just gave me favor with them. They were not Christian, only one of them was Christian, but they, they, I got favored in the way that they disciple me as a clown, as a professional clown. I learned the trade. They taught me how to be a, a very effective clown, because I wanted to be a clown first. And then being able to, with that, I will do the ministry because some people said, I’m gonna do ministry as a clown, and then you become a preacher dressed as a clown. I want to be a clown bringing the message, which is studying.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (04:25):
I was, I was totally a preacher, dressed as a clown, because I was always called to be an evangelist. Like I, that was my heart. Yeah. And so I was the straight man. Yeah. And then my brother, he was the, the, the funny clown. And so I would come out and try to preach to the kids. Yeah. Yeah. And then he’d start goofing off behind me. Yes. And he would make all the kids laugh. And I would turn around, and then I’d go back to preach, and then he’d come back out. Yeah. And it turns into a pretty good routine.
Chagy – the Clown for Christ (04:52):
Yes. But in clowning, you need to understand is you need to learn movement, facial inspiration, everything of what is to become a character. Because through the clowning, you become a juggler of emotions because you express everything you wanna express through sometimes emotion. I go to countries that nobody speak my language, and I can do 30 minute show. And I have not spoken, spoken the language, but I, I conveying the message, and without speaking, but that happened because I, I don’t need to speak. I can do all this movement and show them, express it. When I, I’m, I feel sad when I feel painful, when I feel all this stuff. So I convey that message with my emotions and everything, and then the, they understand what I’m trying to bring until the moment they, they really get the gospel. At the end, at the end, I, I start talking. I had a translator, and they received a message, but I had to do it as a clown, not as a preacher, because if not, take off their makeup and become a, you see, that’s what I tell people. I said, don’t be somebody dressed as a clown. Be a clown. Bringing the message. So that’s why I learned the trade. I learned how to do juggling, illusion all this other stuff, how to perform on stage in order to bring the message. And so that’s how I, everything started.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (06:18):
I think that’s actually very valuable experience for an evangelist, because as a a clown, you learn how to capture the attention of the, the crowd. Keep their attention, make them laugh. Make them cry. Yeah. Bring emotion. Yeah. And if you can keep a big crowd of hyperactive seven year olds attention, then you can do the same thing for any crowd anywhere around the world. And so, I actually think more evangelists should start out by doing children’s ministry, whether it’s clown ministry or not. And they should do children’s ministry to learn how to communicate.
Chagy – the Clown for Christ (06:55):
Yeah. And, and I didn’t do it to do it for children. My ministry never, never is labeled for child. I never labeled for children. I label it for the whole family, children of all ages. So I never, I never started because I wanted to children ministry or this group. No, I, I actually, I’ve been invited many churches on Sunday morning to do clowning and Sunday service, and they bring out the children to their classes, and I do the service for the adults. You’ll be surprised, because at the end, I take off my makeup and it becomes this very amazing experience, spiritual experience, because it is, the adults need laughter a lot children, it’s easy to bring laughter to that. But as also at the same, I’ve been in, in, in places in basketball court with 5,000 children. And when I get there, everybody is screaming.
(07:50):
You hear so many people talking and all that stuff. And I come out as a character, I started, and everybody sh and I, I don’t have to say anything. And I just start doing things as a character at the station. People just, and children are like, and I start doing little things that start giggling, getting the giggling of them and the families and all that stuff. And it gets to point that you have such a powerful tool to control the crowd so they can listen and hear the gospel in, in a, maybe in a silent way, way, because I do it sometimes in a silent way. Or, or just speaking, but with comedy. So that’s why they need to learn all these art. The experience of being trained with Ringling, that was Ringling Brothers was one. And then also I learned, I, I learned more when also when I work for CER sole I had the opportunity to work for them. And I never signed contract with Ringling Brothers because they wanted me for two years contract. And I said, this is, I, it is no negotiable me because I need to spend my time in ministry. If I go there, yeah, I will learn, but I, I wanna spend my time in ministry and c sole. It was just a small time where, not even months that I worked for them. And it was good for me as an experience and to bring it translated into the Christian world.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (09:15):
And so you’ve operated as a clown at a, the highest professional level, and now you have a heart for passing that skill onto others. Yes. Yes. And so talk to me about that. How are you training other people to use the art of clowning and illusion to reach people for Jesus?
Chagy – the Clown for Christ (09:35):
Well, first thing I did to do that, I, I’ve been teaching and have some disciples in some countries, but it’s not enough. I learned in ministry that what we do is not enough. It’s not enough what we do. So one thing I did, I did a whole training DVD session where I teach how to do clowning, how to do illusion, how to do balloons, how to do all this outreach with drama, how to operate a puppet. All that in how to juggle. I teach that in that dvd, which sometimes some countries, I go I go and give it to some people that I see that, oh, these people, this, I can feel that, you know, this is creative enough, they can do that. So I give it to people. Sometimes I, we sell it in some conventions sometimes because well, every proceed, everything that I make is just for doing more mission work in the field. And so, but, but yeah, I did that. And now I’m tr planning a mission missionary clown camp in in Guatemala next year where people will come, we will train them, and at the end of the week, we send it out to orphanage, to churches to do mission in the clown camp. Training never done before. Most of the training that you get in the States is like a one week. You pay for it, and that’s it. No, I, I want them to get an experience and live an experience as, as they get trained.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (11:11):
I think that’s a wonderful idea. A missionary clown camp. There’s a lot of people that should go learn how to be a clown. And some missionaries are already clowns. They should they should stop being clowned <laugh>. Yeah. Yeah.
Chagy – the Clown for Christ (11:27):
And, and the idea out of the camp is just to make professionals.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (11:31):
Yeah.
Chagy – the Clown for Christ (11:32):
Because that’s the idea, is how you become a character. How you become this powerful character that you made. The people fall in love with you, and they will listen. Because that’s what I do in the Muslim world. I go into the Muslim world. I’ve been in 53 countries, in some countries I’ve been over a hundred times. And with the Muslims, I, with the character, you’ll be surprised. I go to the Muslim world and they don’t bring me for the children. They bring me to do evangelism with the clowning for the adults. Wow. And, and I do this stuff, and, and they fall in love with the character, because that’s what I try to do, is made them fall with love, in, love with the character. And then they will listen. You see, they go like, oh my gosh, I love this guy. I enjoy this guy.
(12:19):
But then I go and I bring the message at the end, I, they go like, oh, what happened here? I have one guy from Baghdad in in Iraq. This is a testimony. It was amazing for me. Before I go on stage to do clowning, they reserve this hall in, in Iraq. And they tell me, the pastor said, Hey, I tried to keep it simple at the end. Don’t make a big invitation or something, because last week they killed a Christian here. And I go like, oh, okay. You tell me right before I gonna go on stage. So I did my thing over 31, Muslim came to Christ that day, after I did my thing backstage, I go backstage and this, this guy that look like salam hue, he appeared over there and said, shaggy, can I talk to you? And he would speak English.
(13:07):
I said, like, yeah, well, immediately my head is like, I’m looking. I, I, it is survival. I’m from the street. I came out from the street. So my thing is survival. I gotta look like Hannah. I’m not going down here. I’m not going down. But then I go to him and say, how can I help you? And he go like, you know, I’m from Baghdad. I came to this, and today your message got into my heart. And I go like, wow. And he go like, can I give you a, ah, he said, I’m from Badda and I’m Muslim. And I was, and he said, can I give you a hug? And I, he hugged me, and in my ear, he whispered, he said, you’re welcome in my country. And this is a Muslim. So how powerful this clown where people evangelists, and many other people always say like, oh, you know, how come a clown and this, well, you know, with this clown, thousands of people have come to Christ, people who are Muslim world.
(14:03):
It’s amazing what God can do through, through laughter. You know, we clowns bring laughter. This is a, this is my, my slogan. I always say, clown bring laughter, but only God brings joy. So yeah, it’s it’s an amazing thing. I seen that so many times. And you know, I will not stop. I’ve been doing it for 30 years. I, I encountered an a mission in a evangelist conference. Conference. I saw these evangelists and these beautiful evangelists. They dress, you know, sharp, and they’re sitting in the corner and says, shaggy. But they laughing. And I see, you know, how are they doing it? He said, shaggy, can you come here? I’m backstage right before I go to go up dress as a clown. And they said, they dress like flashy. They said to me, I said, do you think that Jesus would dress as a, as you dress as a clown?
(14:57):
And I said, I’m not sure, but I’m sure that he will not dress the way you dress <laugh>. And I go like <laugh>. I said, so bye-bye. I no time for you <laugh>. So yeah, it just, you, you can count so many people out there. So religious people that, you know, we need to understand that Jesus was creative. We just need, we are fisher of men. And I tell people, I said, as a fisher of men, you need to understand that you need to have a bait. So I’m here shark fishing for shark and killer whales. And if you don’t use the right bait, you will not fish. So sometimes we need to study where we gonna go, how it is, and see what is the best strategy to get to those people.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (15:47):
Tell me about how you communicate the gospel. What is one of your favorite stories or ways of sharing the gospel that you found to be really effective?
Chagy – the Clown for Christ (15:59):
Okay. if you see my show, when I do a clown show I start all the way from the beginning making simple stuff. I do, I do a, a bell routine where I play with people in on stage. Jesus love me, and I finish. And I don’t say not much, but I say Jesus love. And we do the funny thing of saying, Jesus love me, and all that stuff with bells, and people laugh and they see everything, and I finish and that’s it, Joe. I leave it there. So I go from the love of g Jesus that he died for, for us. But then I go all the way to do other ads. I include in my show, different act that has different message all the way to him, to the end. But the other message is about sin, how disobedient we are, and how disobedient you know, destroy our relationship with God and things like that.
(16:54):
So I use different things, elements on the end. Then I do a mind as a clown with the music that says, allow Jesus to come, make your heart his home. And then I finish saying to the people, I say like, you know what your heart is like, like a house, like a home. And, and you know, when you have a home, when you have a house, sometimes you have guests and you bring guests inside, inside your home. But sometimes you don’t invite the guests to the rooms to see the rooms. Why? Because sometimes we have a mess in the other rooms. We only allow other people to be guests and, and stay in the living room in the kitchen. But Jesus wants to come to your home, to your house and has the key to have the key to be the one that goes and clean all your room or the rooms of your house. Even those little drawers that have all the mess that we have over there,
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (17:51):
Even the one room in the back that you keep locked with the
Chagy – the Clown for Christ (17:53):
Key. Yes, yes. That you, you know, that if you open the dark, everything will come down out. So I, I explain all that through all the series of stuff that I do in the show. I can do a whole hour show with all this stuff. And, and during the show, people laugh, people cry, and people think because the idea of a clown, I know it is that we clowns our jugglers of different emotion. We guide them to feel pain, to feel, to understand their, their condition. We help them to understand their condition all the way to the end where they said, wow, I need this. Jesus, this friend of mine who is on stage is a friend of mine, because the way he spoke to me as a friend made me understand that I am a sinner. But he showed me that as a friend, as Jesus did as a friend. And he took me all the way to the process that I know now that I need this. Jesus.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (19:01):
Well, I so love how you are using your gifts and talents for the kingdom of God. Yeah. You found a unique way to share the gospel. We need many different expressions of the gospel.
Chagy – the Clown for Christ (19:13):
Yes. Yes. Yes.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (19:14):
And, and so if someone is interested in being a clown or getting in contact with you, maybe inviting you to come to their church, what’s your website? You have an
Chagy – the Clown for Christ (19:23):
Egg here? Yes. Yes. You say, Hey, look, this is some of the stuff I used to explain. I don’t do magic because I know magic in the Bible is about doing witchcraft and all, you know, Santa, all, all the dark spirit, there’s no dark spirit here. Only the Holy Spirit. So what I showed with this little egg is that the hands are quicker than the ice. That I don’t do magic. I toss it up in the air, then got go like this, toss it up, but it’s gone. But actually, I left it here. This is what I did. I just did this. I kept it here. And then I went like this, and everybody go up looking like this. But actually I kept it here because the hands are quicker than the ice. You know, I can be deceiver, go like this, it’s gone. But actually it is guy right here because the hands are quicker than the eyes.
(20:09):
So it’s a deceiving art. And what I do is I tell people is that, you know what the devil is a deceiver. It is, it is the father of all the lies. So the first lie that he want to lie to you is about who God is and then who you are. So we had to be, so this is how I use things like that. But if they wanna seek for, for my ministry, and they can go to chk.com, C h a g y.com. That’s one place. Chuggy.Com. All my social media is simple. I am Chuggy I am, you know, h a g y, shaggy. So those are the places you can find me. And you know, you can look over there, the ministry, what we do. And it’s amazing. And I hope many of you just will become creative as you do ministry.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (21:02):
Well, thank you for showing us a little trick there with an egg. I don’t know how the people listening to the podcast will be impressed by it, but certainly the video people will. And it was an excellent trick. Oh very exciting <laugh>. So thank you. And thank you so much for being on The Evangelism Podcast.
Chagy – the Clown for Christ (21:22):
Nice to meet you and hope you be, you become successful in bringing people to Christ.
Subscribe to The Evangelism Podcast on Apple iTunes
Listen to The Evangelism Podcast on Spotify
Subscribe to The Evangelism Podcast on Google Podcasts
Find The Evangelism Podcast on Stitcher
Listen to The Evangelism Podcast on Amazon Audible
The Evangelism Podcast is also available on iHeartRadio
Elias Annacondia | Invasion of Hope
Elias Annacondia is the son of Carlos Annacondia who is one of the best known evangelists in Latin America. Today we talk what made his father’s ministry so successful for so many years. We also hear about what God is doing through Elias’ ministry, Invasion of Hope.
Learn more about Elias Annacondia: https://invasionofhope.com/
Connect with Elias Annacondia on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/eliasannacondia/
Transcript:
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (00:00):
Elias Annacondia is the son of Carlos Annacondia who is one of the best known evangelists in Latin America. Today, we talk about what made his father’s ministry so successful for so many years. We also hear about what God is doing through Elias’ ministry, Invasion of Hope.
Evangelism Podcast Host (00:33):
Welcome to the Evangelism Podcast with Dr. Daniel King, where Daniel interviews full-time evangelists, pastors, missionaries, and normal everyday Christians to discover how they share their faith, their powerful testimonies, and amazing stories that will inspire you to reach people with the good news. And now here’s your host, missionary, and evangelist Daniel King.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (00:57):
Welcome To the Evangelism Podcast. I’m Daniel King and I’m excited about telling people about Jesus. Today I have a very special guest with me, Elias Annacondia, thank you so much for being on the Evangelism Podcast.
Elias Annacondia (01:08):
Thank you, evangelist Daniel’s a blessing to be here.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (01:11):
Now you come from a very rich heritage of evangelism. Your father is Carlos Annacondia who is known all over central and South America for doing crusades for many years. Yes. He has been telling people about Jesus. What was it like to grow up with a, a father who had a passion for reaching people for Jesus?
Elias Annacondia (01:39):
Well, for me it was a blessing. As a family, I have we are a big family. We have eight eight siblings. We are, so, it’s, it’s been a blessing to see my, my, my parents mom and dad serving the Lord. So what I can say, like for me, they, they set an example of being a team. While my father was preaching the crusade, my mother was taking care at home. So, and you know, the balance that I that is so at home for me was such beautiful, beautiful, to, to be part of, of a move of God that we have lived as a family.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (02:16):
And what are some of the greatest lessons that you’ve learned from your father? You know, a lot of people can see a minister from the outside. Yeah. But, but you grew up in the family. Yes. And, and so what were some of the greatest things you learned from your dad?
Elias Annacondia (02:32):
Well, there’s so many things from mom and dad because they were, like I was saying, they were a team. While my father was preaching thoroughly in different nations, even within Argentina, my mom was taking care of the family and the balance that they have. That was one of the things that I learned that the ministry boss both worked. While my mom was at home with nine kids, he was preaching sometimes we used to see him. Remember that back in the day, that was 40 days crusade back to back from Monday to Monday to 40 days. The longest one was 62 days crusades. 62 nights.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (03:07):
That’s really amazing because today, often crusades are two nights. Maybe if you go really long, four nights. Yeah. But can you imagine going 40 nights that gives you a chance to really change people’s lives.
Elias Annacondia (03:21):
And in, and even more, like I remember cities were transformed that the move of God, after 40, 30, 60 days, you say, like, the whole city will change. Cause you be, you started Cru say with 20,000 people, but the day 40, you have a hundred, 150,000 people. And the whole city villages were transformed cause it was such a move of God that was increasing every night. So for me, I remember experiencing being a kid, running around and seeing the move of God, how the Lord through the Holy Spirit will change like cities.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (03:54):
I think it’s so amazing that you are serving the Lord and your brothers and sisters are serving the Lord. Like God is a generational God. He’s the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. And now your, the, your brothers and sisters and you, you’re serving the Lord. You still love Jesus, which is so beautiful to see.
Elias Annacondia (04:16):
Yes. For me, it’s just like you were saying, it’s, we have experienced a coherent gospel at home. So the same mom and dad that were sometimes preaching were the same at home. And you know, for me, that’s a legacy that I want to take to my kids. I have two kids and, and, and my wife. So for me, it’s just, I learned that, that that is beautiful as a family to see a coherent gospel. The same mom and dad that we’re at preaching to a hundred thousand people, the same character, the same hearts with us as a family, with us as a family.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (04:49):
Now, one of the things that your father is known for is deliverance. Yes. I read his book, “Listen to Me, Satan.” Yes. And he was known for, for saying that, listen to me, Satan. And he would start to, to cast out. Yes. All the demons. Talk to me about the deliverance ministry. Why is that so important? And and how did your father do that?
Elias Annacondia (05:10):
Yes. Like we have seen people focus on deliverance, but there’s so many healing that happened. And salvations the same amount in the crusade. So what happened when he got safe, he was 35 years old. He was a prosper businessman. So he got safe in a crusade from an evangelist from Panama that came, or Crue to Argentina. So in that crusade, he received the Lord. So what happened after he got, say he had his business, he will go back to his business and start sharing with people about the Lord, about the transformation of his heart. He will enter to some places like markets or restaurant and people would be begin to manifest. So he didn’t know what was going on. He didn’t ask for a start happening. He start falling in love with the Lord, praying, spending time reading the Bible, the pastors, he start going to the church and then read the gospels, the gospel of John.
(06:01):
He begin to fall in love with the Lord. While he was doing these supernatural things, what happened when he was walking in the street where he was, you know, encountering with people. So that was one of the things. He didn’t look for it, he just came with the package. And that’s why he was seeing things that he never saw before. So that’s why in his heart, he begin to prepare his heart, okay, how, how can I help the people when people manifest people was angry at for no reason. And that’s, I would say, what that was kind of the beginning of him looking after the heart of, of God saying, this is not common. This is not normal. So I have never seen someone like that. So that’s how he started praying and seeking even more the Lord to help that. People that were manifesting for no reason.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (06:49):
And so what happens if someone manifests? Like if, if he’s preaching, if he’s giving the alter call and people manifest I know that you love to train all the workers who, what, what do they do?
Elias Annacondia (07:02):
So we do, like, we do a training that is now we call it equipping the church. So we teach evangelism, spiritual warfare, intercession, deliverance, and holy spirit. So the thing towards that is we do that in the crusade. We teach the whole volunteers. We have like, sometime we have like 200 people in the deliverance, 10 pastors, leaders that we train like in a, in a practical way, you know how to perform the deliverance in a practical way. We don’t focus on the demons, on the legions. We focus, okay, the person we speak with, the person we take control, we, the thing that we do is take authority. The peoples manifesting. So within the, after the preaching, you know, like the great commission. So they preach the gospel cast of demons, speak new tongues and heal the sink. So what we do is, is as the ministry itself is known for these four things, preaching of the word of God, casting of the demons, failing the people with the Holy Spirit and healing the sink.
(08:04):
Nothing new is nothing different is what the Lord Jesus taught us many years ago. We’ve been doing that for over 40 years. And he worked work in Argentina and Japan, Hong Kong, Korea, Taiwan, Indonesia, Europe is the same way. We have seen the same transformation, the same touch of God in people lives. So we believe deliverance is key after salvation. We understand that the people need to be self free. So that’s what we work in a process of, you know it’s not about some, you know, we, we learn throughout the way. Like some people, we throw holy water, olive oil, whatever you name, you know, it’s not, it’s about speaking with the person, taking authority over the manifestation and talking with their person and knowing where is the problem. So it’s communication. And then the people, you know, one who know the problem, the people will renounce.
(08:53):
Okay, I renounce to the hatred. I renouncing what happened in my past. I renounce you. What I did the wrongdoings. And then we take author, we break the yolks, and then the deliverance process begin. It’s beautiful to see eventually Daniel, when the people comes into the deliverance tent, every could say we have like 400 to 600 or 800 manifested people per night. So when we are praying after the, the, the prison of the gospel, the first thing he does is salvation calling. And after salvation is a prayer for deliverance. So we take 15 to 20 minutes praying for deliverance from the altar. So we have a team that is ready, the people that is manifesting, while the deliverance prayer is going on, they’re taken to the deliverance tent. Where carefully we, we, we like to, to take seriously the identity of the person. We don’t wanna expose the demo person. That
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (09:47):
That’s why you have you take them to a tent. Yes. Because you don’t want to expose the person. No. You don’t want people to, sometimes the Satan tries to take the attention away from Jesus. And so you take them into the tent. And then once they’re in the tent, the pastors, the the leaders are trained Yes. To, to pray for them, help them to renounce. Yes.
Elias Annacondia (10:09):
That’s correct. That’s a process. So we have two people helping. One, well, one is ministry, the other one is praying behind. Forgot to give wisdom, the sermon to the people that is ministering to that person. So we do it in order and we always take care of the people. They are not demons, they are not animals. There’s, there’s a person in need. So carefully. We love taking into the delivery stand. We don’t no.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (10:31):
Punching the demons out. <Laugh> demo. You’re gentle. Yes.
Elias Annacondia (10:35):
Yes. We are, we take authority when we have, but we always, when the people manifest, we try to make the person come back to the census. No. So we don’t speak with the demons. We understood that throughout, over four years, the Lord taught us the way to do it effectively. And then we understand we don’t, we’re not gonna do a show. We’re not gonna let the enemy do a show. We should stay control. We bound it and take it to the liver stand where the people is gonna be treated. We don’t like to expose anyone sins. And the pulpit is just taking care of the person and the person to be able to work in, in the freedom that the Lord has for them.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (11:13):
And it’s so beautiful when God sets someone free. I mean, they can go from yelling and being very upset. And, and then once they are set free from the demons, have a beautiful smile. Yes. Like there is a true change that comes in people’s lives.
Elias Annacondia (11:31):
Yes. And that’s, that’s one of the beautiful things after salvation that I seen. Even, even over miracles. Cause when people get set free of the oppression and society abuse so many things from the past, you see them then when they’re coming. The result is a person that is willing, not only happy, not only with the joy of Holy Spirit, but that person is willing to serve the Lord in, in, in another level.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (11:58):
Yeah. So you explained to me that in your father’s crusades, there’s, there’s five pillars. Yes. You have salvation. Yes. Deliverance. Yes. What else? Healing
Elias Annacondia (12:09):
The prayer for healing. You
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (12:10):
Pray. Prayer for healing. Then
Elias Annacondia (12:11):
We do testimonies.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (12:13):
Testimonies. And
Elias Annacondia (12:14):
Then we go down and we pray for the people one by one with the local pastor. So we will call the local pastor. He will pray for them before the crusade the night before. And we get ready to pray for each person. We get down by Father will get down on the field, touching the people. And there’s many other miracles happen while we are with the people praying for them by hand.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (12:36):
And so often your father would stay for many hours. Three
Elias Annacondia (12:39):
In the morning, start at seven and three in the morning. Sometime he was
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (12:43):
In until everyone is prayed for.
Elias Annacondia (12:45):
Yeah. Along with the pastors of the city.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (12:47):
Wow. And, and then praying for the Holy Spirit as
Elias Annacondia (12:51):
Well. Yes. Yes. We do the, like even in the deliverance, like we were mentioning, after the person get set free, we stand up the person and we start speaking and never be baptized by the Holy Spirit. Starting, you know, taking the person to, to get to know the Holy Spirit and be baptized Yeah. With the Holy Spirit. And they moved, you know, in the Spirit. Cause we wanted the person to weave, fill for the Holy Ghost.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (13:13):
Yeah. Right now we are here in the nation of Nicaragua. Yes. We’ve just finished a beautiful crusade with evangelist Nathan Morris. Yes. And God has opened up the nation to the shake the nation’s ministry of, of Nathan Morris. And so you have come down and in, in your role in this crusade was to, to help train Yes. The different groups. And so te tell me about the different groups that you organize. You have the ushers. Yes. You have security. Yes. What other groups? We have
Elias Annacondia (13:45):
Catchers.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (13:46):
Catchers.
Elias Annacondia (13:47):
We have protocol.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (13:48):
Protocol.
Elias Annacondia (13:49):
We have deliverance intercession team. We have the prayer team. The prayer team is the one that are prayer for the sick people. We put the sick people in a section. So there’s a prayer team that will take care of them throughout the, they crusade. They will be constantly praying for the sick people. So, and that’s the groups that we mainly manage, you know, to, to make the crusade like, you know what, we have sometimes 30,000 people, sometimes, like in Gene Dega, we have 60, 70,000 people. So we wanna, in a way have a order. So throughout the trainings, we’re able to help the people and to, you know, otherwise it become a chaos. But we don’t want that. So that’s where the training, how to manage the messes. When evangelist Nathan is making the call to have order, the, the, the Asher’s security, everything is in, in order. So that’s the same way the intercession team will pray throughout the night, you know, and the deliverance team will be ready. Some people, when, yesterday, for instance, the last night while he was preaching, people was manifesting. We took a few people to the north stand where we love, we carry, we minister to them. So that’s, for me, it’s so important, you know, the groups that, that we bring order and also we try to, to help every person that gets there.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (15:04):
Yeah. Last night when I went out into the crowd and was praying for people, one boy I was praying for began to manifest a demonn. And so the ushers grabbed him and they took him over to the tent. And then later I saw that he had been set free. Wow. And so it was so beautiful. And then I saw last night there was one woman, she was holding her crutches up in the air, like during the prayer for healing. Jesus touched her. She, she was healed. And, and the, the crowd was so thick that she had a hard time getting through. So she just held both her crutches up in the air. And I saw you went out to her, you grabbed her and said, come on, come share your miracle. And so I took a picture of you with the woman she’s walking. Yes. And you’re holding the crutches because Jesus had healed her. And so Yes.
Elias Annacondia (15:49):
It’s beautiful to see that. I mean, I love it.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (15:51):
It, it’s so neat to see God do great miracles among the people. Now you are living in Houston, Texas. Correct. And so God has brought you to the United States. Yes. Which is good. The United States needs some fuo. Yes. <laugh>. We need some anointing from Argentina in the United States. So, and, and you, you have your own ministry Yes. As well. Tell me about your ministry and what you do.
Elias Annacondia (16:17):
Yeah. Like two years ago, the Lord was like, actually started almost seven years ago. I was in Mexico, chias in different cities. It’s six different cities near Guatemala and was poor villages and areas. And we minister with the crusades. And then I came back from that trip with a bird in my heart. And the Lord gave me this word, invasion of hope. So throughout the years I was praying, Lord, what is invasion of hope? What is that? So two years ago, while I was praying, the Holy Spirit showed me a word that says, you know, invasion of hope is bringing hope to the whole place. And the Lord start putting my heart, how can we bring love in action? So we, the Lord, begin to gimme like a plan of doing social work, medical work, and right the same week doing the present.
(17:06):
So we, we began like two years ago doing, we founded the ministry Invasion of Hope. And then we start working, you know, Mexico and, and with this and this village that I’ve been there seven years ago. And what happened, we have seen a move of God just loving on people without asking for nothing. Taking care of needs the medical work and then the crusade. And we have like, it was amazing to see the three crusade we have, the stadiums were packed and disabilities. We, we saw a move of God. And that’s pretty much how we began. You know, we are so excited for what God, God is doing for, you know, not only what our, our goal is the salvation going from death to eternal life. But in the process, the Lord’s teaching me, it’s not gonna be this, but also this loving people and taking care of their needs and then meeting their needs.
(17:57):
And then the Lord, we have seen in families and kids how they open the heart. Cause it’s just love in action. We are not, we are not saying, I’m gonna give you this, but you need to receive the Lord. No, no, no. It’s just, just loving on them. And with that conversation, they open the heart to say, why are you doing this for us? Why are you guys different? Cause Jesus is with us. And then we explain to them and they receive the gospel so quick. And not only that, the next days when we do the crusade, all of them come. So for, for us it was like, it was beautiful to see that.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (18:30):
And so just recently you were in Chapas, Mexico?
Elias Annacondia (18:33):
Yes, yes. Yes. We have two crusade. Last year, November we did an <inaudible> and then in, in Chilon, which is like five hours up in the hills in the mountains. But it was beautiful people, they speak salt seal and cell other, you know, native languages. I mean, it was beautiful to work with them to see the Lord movie. We have over four or 5,000 people every night. It was four nights, two nights in each city. So Wow. The studies were like, you know, they never don’t. In, in Chi never happened in the soccer stadium. So it was beautiful to see this, the soccer stadium feel of new people <inaudible> moving. So for me it’s just an, a beautiful experience.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (19:16):
And you took some evangelists you partnered with Yes. Some of the evangelists from the, the Christ for All Nations Evangelism Boot camp. Yes. Yes. Who, who went with you?
Elias Annacondia (19:26):
Caleb w was one of them that came and Elliot Martinez. So the, we, we were, we were friends for years. And then we were talking about it when I, we gonna do something together. So I felt, when I received this invitation from the pastor, from Chi Chias, we want you to come to do another crusade. That was like six years ago. So let me pray for, let me pray, please. And then after three months, I fell for the spirit. That was the right time. So we went there and before we went, I called EB and Elliot said, Hey guys, this is the time. Let do it together. Said what? It was beautiful. Cause we preached it each night. It’s one of us. And it was beautiful to see God moving in the gifts of evangelism, the gift that the Lord put each one of us. So for me, I believe that we are living a time like here in Nicaragua time of, of getting together. It’s not about myself. It’s about how can we, how can we do it together and make it, you know, better, greater and bigger.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (20:18):
Amen. Well, if someone wants to invite you to come preach at their church or to come to a crusade, or, or if they want to support your ministry, how can they find out more about you? What, what’s your website?
Elias Annacondia (20:31):
Yes. The website is www.invasionofhope.com. So they
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (20:37):
Invasion of hope.com. Yes,
Elias Annacondia (20:38):
Sir. Yes. So they can, they can send invitation, they can know what we’re doing. They can pray for us as well as we are continue moving and growing in the Lord.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (20:47):
Yeah. I believe God is raising up the Hispanics of North America. Yeah. I mean, there’s so many people just in my city of Tulsa. There are so many people that have come from Nicaragua, from Mexico, from other parts of, of of Central and South America. And I believe God is raising up the, the Hispanic church in North America because they’re, they’re on fire. Yes. And, and I believe that God has brought you to America to help bring revival. Amen
Elias Annacondia (21:20):
And amen. I’m, I’m excited about it. I came like 2008 as an international student. I remember I didn’t speak English, but then, cuz I went to Italian school in Argentina. So and it was a whole process of me learning English at 27 years old. But I’m, I believe I made
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (21:38):
It. I’m like, your, your English is excellent. You’re doing great job with your English. Well, let’s finish by praying for revival. Amen. And why don’t you pray in Spanish, pray Yes. Pray for God to, to send revival. Amen. Let, let’s pray for Central America. Yes. Nicaragua, where we are. Yes. South America. And let’s also pray for North America. Amen. Amen.
Elias Annacondia (22:01):
Let’s join us and let’s pray. Father, were coming together with, in any national, in every nation, we wanna be part of the move of God on the Lord. Father, we’re gonna be part of the move of God that you’re gonna bring throughout the Lord. Father, we pray for those who are watching, that are hearing this podcast, Lord, that have been, that might be filled with the Holy Spirit Lord, to go out, Lord and to be witness of Jesus throughout the year. Lord, thank you for this time. I bless Evangelist Daniel, the ministry where, where everything and the great things that you are doing throughout his life. Lord, I bless him and I bless his family. Thank you for this time, Jesus.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (24:06):
Amen. Well, thank you Elias for being on the Evangelism podcast.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (24:10):
Thank
Elias Annacondia (24:11):
You, thank you. Thank you for inviting me.
Evangelism Podcast Host (24:12):
Are you called by God to be an evangelist? Do you wanna lead millions of people to Jesus? Do you desire to be trained in the practical side of building a ministry? Then check out that Daniel King’s School of Evangelism learn how to be an effective evangelist from Dr. Daniel King’s 20 plus years of experience. Daniel King has done crusades all over the world in over 70 nations and has seen over 2 million people give their lives to Jesus. But it wasn’t easy. There was no crusade school. So Daniel traveled the world learning from and observing top evangelists, noticing how they successfully won souls for Christ. Now he wants to share decades of knowledge and experience with you. Topics of the Daniel King School of Evangelism include what is an evangelist, how to be a master soul winner. How to give an alter call, how to organize a crusade, how to raise money for your ministry, and much more. If you wanna be an evangelist, but don’t know where to start, the Daniel King School of Evangelism is for you. Enroll today in the School of Evangelism by going to Daniel King ministries.com/evangelism.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (25:14):
Thanks so much for listening today. I am excited about telling people about Jesus and I want to invite you to be a part of helping us to rescue people from Hell and take them with us to heaven. There’s two things you can do to help. First of all, can you go find the Evangelism podcast on Apple iTunes and leave us a positive review by giving a review. You will help other people find these valuable resources about sharing our faith. And second, would you become a financial partner with King Ministries. Every single dollar that people give us enables us to lead at least one person to Jesus. And so that means for only $1, you can help start a party in heaven. And so today I want to invite you to become a monthly partner. You can start out for just a dollar, but if God puts it on your heart to do more, of course you can do more. But please go to king ministries.com and become a monthly partner with us today to help us to lead more people to Jesus. Thank you so much, and God bless you.
Evangelism Podcast Host (26:35):
For more information about how to share your faith or to financially support our worldwide evangelistic outreaches, visit king ministries.com. Again, that’s king ministries.com.
Subscribe to The Evangelism Podcast on Apple iTunes
Listen to The Evangelism Podcast on Spotify
Subscribe to The Evangelism Podcast on Google Podcasts
Find The Evangelism Podcast on Stitcher
Listen to The Evangelism Podcast on Amazon Audible
The Evangelism Podcast is also available on iHeartRadio
Christopher Beth | The Bucket Ministry
Jesus said, “Come to Me and I will give you Living Water.” The Bucket Ministry gives away water filters to people with dirty water and they preach the Gospel to people with dirty souls. Today I interview Christoper Beth about his unique idea for fulfilling the Great Commission.
Learn more about The Bucket Ministry: https://thebucketministry.org/
Transcript:
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (00:00):
Jesus said, come to me and I will give you living water. The bucket Ministry gives away water filters to people with dirty water, and they preach the gospel to people with dirty souls. Today I interview Christopher Beth about his unique idea for fulfilling the Great Commission.
Evangelism Podcast Host (00:34):
Welcome to the Evangelism Podcast with Dr. Daniel King, where Daniel interviews full-time evangelists, pastors, missionaries, and normal everyday Christians to discover how they share their faith, their powerful testimonies, and amazing stories that will inspire you to reach people with the good news. And now here’s your host, missionary, and evangelist Daniel King.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (00:58):
Welcome to the Evangelism Podcast. I’m Daniel King, and I’m excited about telling people about Jesus. Today we have a very special guest with us, Christopher Beth from The Bucket Ministry. Thank you for joining me on the Evangelism Podcast.
Christopher Beth (01:11):
Oh, Daniel, thank you so much for inviting me in. I just look forward to unpacking a few stories with you.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (01:17):
Well, I was looking at your website about the bucket ministry, and it looks like you are using fresh, clean water as a way to bring people to Jesus. Can you tell me about that?
Christopher Beth (01:32):
Yes, sir. So we, we work in about 12 countries and about 11 years ago, I got alerted to the World Water Crisis. I had lived a privileged life before that like most of us have. And when I was thirsty I just went to the refrigerator and got water out of the filter, or I bought a bottle of water. But after discovering this situation, I realized that many people don’t have access to clean water. And so we found a tool to use a very simple water filter that attaches to a bucket or receptacle. And through that process, through that gift of generational access to clean water, we have been able to connect that to the sweet gospel of Jesus Christ. And I, I’ve got a bottle of dirty water right here, and I, I like to say that there’s about six sermons in this bottle of dirty water.
(02:39):
And the, the, the most apt description of this water and connection to the gospel is this. Dirty water is a lot like things that I struggle with my life. Because if I drink this, I’m gonna get sick. It could kill me. And it’s very similar to the, the sin that I struggle with in my life and have struggled with. But this water filter that we use, and what it does is a, a very amazing representation of what Jesus did on that cross for us and how he cleaned us, how he purified us and redeemed us. And so that’s the, that’s one of the, the greatest illustrations that we use from this filter. But we use this as a way to reach people, as you’ve said that don’t have access to clean water and that are far from God.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (03:37):
That’s awesome. So give me the first story of the first place you went to give freshwater and what the reaction was when you did that.
Christopher Beth (03:47):
Well, and that’s an interesting story because in 2012, I went to Brazil for the first time in the Amazon Basin and saw the World Water Cross Crisis. That’s where God breathed this ministry into existence. And then in 2014, we brought filters back. And in the beginning, Daniel, I thought that this was all about just the humanitarian goal of giving out clean water. I, I didn’t even really understand what God was doing through it. So in 2014, we go back with 80 of these Sawyer hollow fiber membrane filters. And again, I thought this was just about handing out clean water. And we go into this village, we set up, I have this entire elaborate presentation planned, and there’s about 60 people standing in front of us, and I teach people how the filter works, why they need it, how to take care of it.
(04:49):
And they all were super excited. So I felt really good about myself. Right. And then at the end of this, I’m packing everything up and this Brazilian man comes up to me and he says, can you tell me how you got to our village today? And I was like, well, I made a joke, right? And I said, well, that boat and that captain right there. And he’s go like, no, no, no, of all the villages in the Amazon, how did you come to our village today? And I wasn’t prepared to answer that. And I said, well, I’m a follower of Jesus Christ, and we felt called to give you this gift. And the next thing he said is what changed everything for me personally and for this organization. And he said, so who is this Jesus? And so at this point, Daniel, I’m looking around, I’m looking for a pastor, right?
(05:44):
Because I’m just this ordinary business guy, and I’m, Hey, who can tell this guy about Jesus? And so at that point there’s nobody there, and I just offer up my testimony to this man and tell him what Jesus had done in my life through a tragic car accident with my daughter. And then at the end of this, this man is listening very intently, and he’s got his hand here, and he’s doing this. And he says, so how can I have this Jesus? And I’m like, oh my goodness, I need a pastor. What do I do? What don’t we do with this? So I walked this man through the point of salvation and talked to him about this relationship with Jesus. As, as I’m doing this, the crowd is growing closer to me listening. And that day in that village I was able to pray for 20 or 30 people that wanted to start a relationship with Jesus that day in repent of their sins. And so that’s when we found out that the filter, while we’ll solve a major physical problem, that over 785 million people lack access to clean water, the filter will solve a major problem. But more than that, the filter is a key that starts a relationship with people, that we earn the right to be able to share the gospel. We earn the right to be able to start teaching them discipleship lessons.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (07:17):
Wow, that’s awesome. I was in India a few years ago, and I saw a dirty irrigation ditch next to the ditch. There were cows, there were chickens, and kids were playing in the water. It, it was filthy, but then they would come and dip a big bucket in the ditch, and that’s was what they would drink right from the, the irrigation ditch. And I was looking up some statistics on the need for water, and I found out that one in eight people worldwide do not have access to safe and clean drinking water. Nearly a billion, that’s 884 million people in the world do not have access to clean and safe water in developing nations. As much as 80% of the illnesses that people typically get are linked to poor water and sanitation conditions. And in the world, there’s 443 million school days that are lost each year due to water related diseases. Half of the world’s hospital bids are filled with people that are suffering from a water related disease. And also in India, often they will go long distances to get water from a well far away. And they can carry, like this, jerry can, it weighs over 40 pounds when full, and the women will carry it on their heads. In the world, two-thirds, 64% of households rely on women to get the, the, the family’s water when there’s no water source close to the
Christopher Beth (08:54):
Home. Women and children.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (08:55):
Women and children, yeah. And, and nearly one out of every five deaths in the world that are under the age of five are due to a water related disease. And so we often dig water wells in some places. And then right next to the water, well, we’ll usually build a water well right next to a church. And, and then right over the water well is a big sign that says, he who comes to me will thirst no more from Jesus Christ. And of course, Jesus talked to the, the woman in John Chapter four and promised her living water. And so that’s what you’re doing. You are bringing living water to people who don’t have a source of clean drinking water. But then along with the water, you are bringing the good news of Jesus Christ. So you are quenching a spiritual thirst and a physical thirst. So the, the filter that you typically give, how much does one of those filters cost? What does it cost to solve the drinking problem for someone?
Christopher Beth (10:02):
Yeah. This part is, is, is gonna be problematic to hear because this is an easy problem to solve. And I mean, it’s easy because many people think that we have to drill a well to solve the problem. But so we provide the filter, we provide a bucket, we provide anti parasitic medicines for the family and our indigenous missionaries, ORs will do a minimum of three follow up visitations in the first three months with that family. And then if they don’t have a Bible or someone comes to faith in the process, we will equip them with the Bible. So we can do all that Daniel for $50 in most countries.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (10:47):
Wow, that’s amazing. So for only $50, you can have at least a 90 day impact on the family spiritually, because you’re coming back several times visiting them over and over again. And how long does that water filter last? How long does it give them clean water
Christopher Beth (11:03):
And the, the filter will last a minimum of 20 years if well cared for? Wow. So you know, for, and what I like to say, for less than we can take our family out to Applebee’s and not have any appetizers, not drink any sodas we can provide the hope that comes from Jesus Christ and, and clean, safe drinking water for that family for 20 years. So
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (11:31):
Now, one of the challenges that I’ve seen with some organizations, they get really focused on the humanitarian side of ministry, which I think is, is biblical, you know, Jesus said to, to love others. And so the humanitarian side, I think, fulfills the great commandment, which to love God and to love others. But you also in your ministry have a real focus on fulfilling the great commission. And I saw on your, your website that you have three non-negotiables that you stick with as you’re giving away these, these water filters. And I so appreciate them because I, I’ve seen some humanitarians that will give away humanitarian aid, but they forget to help bring people to heaven with them. They, they help them here on earth, but they’re not helping them get to heaven. They forget that far. So tell me about your three non-negotiables.
Christopher Beth (12:33):
Yeah. And that, and thank you for asking, because these are deep in the heart of our organization. So number one of the three is Jesus is gonna be proclaimed in every part of our process, assessments, distributions and follow ups no exception. And number two, data will be collected so we can report back to our donors, to our partners, to our church partners, where the resources have gone, and to show them exactly where God is working. And then lastly, a minimum of three follow ups will be done in the first three to four months. And those are done by indigenous missionaries and pastors. And as you’ve said, Daniel we are focused on the Great commission. We believe that we are a great commission organization, and this is just merely a tool to get there. So the water filter will save lives physically, but why we’re there is, is solely to preach the, the gospel of Jesus Christ and to start to teach discipleship lessons and then point people to local like-minded churches if there’s one in the area or stark Bible studies in homes.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (13:52):
Wow, that’s awesome. And then you also do kids clubs. Tell me about that.
Christopher Beth (13:57):
That’s that’s near and dear to our heart. And my daughter Savannah co-founder of this organization, she leads that effort for us. And you know, when we distribute one of these filters, the fa the adults learn how to care for the filter. They understand the impact of that, but we want to influence the next generation because quite frankly, you know, we’re a bunch of old guys and we, we need to be bringing up that next generation. So in both domestically in the United States and in foreign countries we are gathering recipient kids and church partner kids sometimes as much as weekly, every other week once a month. And teaching them how the filter works, works teaching ’em about the world water crisis, and then in many cases for recipient kids, teaching them about this gift that their family got.
(14:56):
So they could also be responsible for caring for it and understanding the importance of clean water. And in many cases, the kids are the best stewards of the gift. And so the kids club aspect is something that we are all very, very excited about. And the really cool part is, it translates, it doesn’t matter if it’s a partner church here in the US or a recipient family elsewhere. The kids are just hungry to learn. They’re hungry to just be kids. And while it’s very similar to other V B s curriculums, it really focuses in on the world water crisis and how a young person can be involved to be the solution.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (15:42):
Amen. Well, Mr. Christopher, I know someone who’s listening right now is feeling led to come and support and to help sponsor some water filters. So how can someone give a donation or help the ministry or, or find out more about you? What, what is your website?
Christopher Beth (16:03):
Yeah, the very best way is to go to the website and it’s the bucket ministry.org, vb bucket ministry.org. And there’s a plethora of information on there. There’s contact information, and you can it it for further information. Our phone number for our office is on there. You can reach right out, and we would love to share some stories and tell people about just this tool that God is using to reach the lost.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (16:31):
Well, Mr. Christopher, thank you for taking fresh water to people who need it and living water to those who need it. Thank you so much for being on the Evangelism Podcast. Thank you.
Christopher Beth (16:41):
Thank you, Daniel. Blessings.
Evangelism Podcast Host (16:43):
Are you called by God to be an evangelist? Do you wanna lead millions of people to Jesus? Do you desire to be trained in the practical side of building a ministry? Then check out the Daniel King’s School of Evangelism. Learn how to be an effective evangelist from Dr. Daniel King’s 20 plus years of experience. Daniel King has done crusades all over the world in over 70 nations, and has seen over 2 million people give their lives to Jesus. But it wasn’t easy. There was no crusade school. So Daniel traveled the world learning from and observing top evangelists, noticing how they successfully won souls for Christ. Now he wants to share decades of knowledge and experience with you. Topics of the Daniel King School of Evangelism include what is an evangelist, how to be a master soul winner, how to give an alter call, how to organize a crusade, how to raise money for your ministry, and much more. If you wanna be an evangelist, but don’t know where to start, the Daniel King School of Evangelism is for you. Enroll today in the School of Evangelism by going to Daniel King ministries.com/evangelism.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (17:45):
Thanks so much for listening today. I am excited telling people about Jesus, and I want to invite you to be a part of helping us to rescue people from Hell and take them with us to heaven. There’s two things you can do to help. First of all, can you go find the Evangelism podcast on Apple iTunes and leave us a positive review by giving a review, you will help other people find these valuable resources about sharing our faith. And second, would you become a financial partner with King Ministries? Every single dollar that people give us enables us to lead at least one person to Jesus. And so that means for only $1, you can help start a party in heaven. And so today I want to invite you to become a monthly partner. You can start out for just a dollar, but if God puts it on your heart to do more, of course you can do more. But please go to king ministries.com and become a monthly partner with us today to help us to lead more people to Jesus. Thank you so much, and God bless you.
Evangelism Podcast Host (19:06):
For more information about how to share your faith, or to financially support our worldwide evangelistic outreaches, visit king ministries.com. Again, that’s king ministries.com.
Subscribe to The Evangelism Podcast on Apple iTunes
Listen to The Evangelism Podcast on Spotify
Subscribe to The Evangelism Podcast on Google Podcasts
Find The Evangelism Podcast on Stitcher
Listen to The Evangelism Podcast on Amazon Audible
The Evangelism Podcast is also available on iHeartRadio
Happy Mother’s Day – The Story of Two Mothers
Happy Mother’s Day! In today’s post, I want to share with you a sermon I like to preach on Mother’s Day about two famous mothers…
A Tale of Two Mothers
The first mother I want to introduce you to is Eve, the “mother of all humankind.”
In the beginning of time, God created Adam and Eve and placed them in a beautiful garden. He gave them the entire garden as their own, except for the fruit of two trees in the middle of the garden.
The Serpent came and tempted Eve. He said, “You will not surely die…for God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and evil” (Genesis 3:4-5). In disobedience to God, Eve reached out her hand and took the fruit. Then she offered it to Adam and he also ate the fruit.
Because of Eve’s disobedience, sin entered the world. Along with sin came great pain and heartbreak.
Eve watched her son Cain kill Abel (Genesis 4:8). She saw the world descend into chaos. But, her whole life, she held onto the promise of the “seed of the woman” (Genesis 3:15) who would come to crush the serpent’s head.
For thousands of years, mother’s passed this promise down from generation to generation. They told their little girls, “Someday, a woman will give birth to a Savior.”
But after thousands of years, many gave up hope. It seemed that a Savior would never come.
But now I want to introduce you to another mother. Her name was Mary and she is known as “the mother of God.”
She was a young girl, a teenager. One day an angel visited her and said, “Blessed are you among woman for you are highly favored.” JOKE: I told my kids this story and they went home and licked my wife. She asked why they were licking her and they explained that I told them their mother was highly flavored.
CONCEPTION: Mary replied to the angel, “May it be onto me according to your will.” In that moment, the Holy Spirit came upon her and she became pregnant. (Luke 1:26-38).
BIRTH: Nine months later, in a manger in Bethlehem, Mary gave birth to Jesus the Christ, the Son of God, the Messiah. She gave birth to the Creator of the Universe, to the One who existed before time began. (Luke 2:4-6).
LOSING JESUS: When Jesus was a twelve-year-old boy, his parents accidently left him behind in the Temple. One can imagine how Mary felt when she lost her boy. (Luke 2:41-50)
GROWTH: Mary watched her son grow up. Even though Jesus was God, He still learned from His mother. She taught him how to dress Himself, and how to eat with manners. She taught Him how to count, and how to sing songs. She taught Him her favorite Scriptures and sent him off to school in the synagogue. (Luke 2:51). The Bible tells us, “He grew in wisdom and stature and favor with God and man.” (Luke 2:52).
WEDDING AT CANA: Mary was the reason for Jesus’ first miracle. They were at a wedding and the wine ran out. Mary spoke to Jesus about the problem. He commanded the servants to fill six stone jars full of water and to serve the guests. They were hesitant to obey his crazy command, but Mary told them to “Do whatever he tells you to do.” (John 2:5)
CRUCIFIXION: Mary also experienced great pain. She watched her precious son be executed in the most horrible way possible. She stood at the foot of the cross and looked up into his eyes. She wondered if everything the angle had told her was wrong. If Jesus was the Son of God, how could he hang dying on a tree? In that moment, Jesus showed how much he cared for his mother. He said to Mary, “Dear woman, here is your son, and He said to John, “Here is your mother.” (John 19:26-27)
RESURRECTION: Mary, the Mother of Jesus, was there to see the empty tomb. (Luke 24:10).
Let’s compare these two mothers. In some ways they were similar. Both woman were mothers. Both woman experienced pain and suffering. Both saw a son die. Both loved their children.
But in other ways, these two mothers are very different:
* One mother was disobedient and brought sin in the world, the other mother was obedient and brought a Savior into the world.
* One mother was unwilling to do God’s will, the other was willing to do God’s will.
* One mother listened to the voice of Satan, the other mother listened to the voice of God.
* One mother raised Cain, the other mother raised Jesus.
* One mother brought death into the world, the other mother brought eternal life into the world.
Mary is a great example for us to follow. Now, I do not think it is appropriate to pray to Mary. JOKE: Once there was a woman in a cathedral and Jesus appeared to her and said, “I am Jesus.” She replied, “Hush.” Jesus was surprised. He tapped her on the shoulder and said, “I am Jesus, the Savior of the Lord.” Again, she responded by saying, “Shhhhh.” For a third time, he tried to get her attention and finally she responded, “Can you please be quiet, I am trying to talk to your mother.” As this story illustrates, we should only pray to God, not to a human. But, it is appropriate to honor and show respect to Mary, because she carried God in her womb for nine months.
So, what lessons can mothers today learn from Mary? I think we should take her words to heart and make them our own.
- Have faith in God: We should say with Mary, “According to your will be it done onto me.”
- Obey Jesus: We should do what Mary told the servants to do, “Whatever He says to you, do it.”
- Know that Jesus can do miracles: Mary knew Jesus could do miracles. If Jesus can turn water into wine, He can turn your problem into a miracle.
- Salvation – Mary saw Jesus die on the cross but three days later, she saw Him as risen Lord. You too can experience the reality of a risen Jesus!
ABOUT DANIEL KING
Evangelist Daniel King, D.Min is on a mission to lead people to Jesus. He has visited over seventy nations preaching good news and he has led over two million people in a salvation prayer. He is often called “The Evangelism Coach.” To support King Ministries in our quest for souls, click here!