Youth Hope was started in 1936 by some little old ladies who wanted to reach out to young people. It was originally known as the Christian Friendliness Society. Now they minister to children across the Quad Cities area. Today, Evangelist Daniel King interviews Mark Drake who has directed the ministry for the last thirty-seven years.
Learn more about Youth Hope: https://www.youthhopeqc.org/
Transcript:
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (00:00):
Welcome to the Evangelism Podcast. I’m Daniel King. I’m excited about telling people about Jesus today. I have a very special guest with me, Mark Drake from Youth Hope. Thank you for joining me on the Evangelism Podcast.
Mark Drake | Youth Hope (00:12):
Thanks for asking, Daniel. Appreciate it.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (00:14):
Alright, so Mark, we are here in a beautiful facility in Moline, Illinois and we are with Youth Hope. You’ve been leading this ministry for 37 years now.
Mark Drake | Youth Hope (00:32):
Yeah, 37.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (00:33):
And so tell me a little bit about Youth Hope and what Youth Hope does.
Mark Drake | Youth Hope (00:39):
Yeah, appreciate you asking. First of all, I would say when you say in a beautiful building, we didn’t have these facilities, but I’ve often said we can sell all the facilities. It matters what we’re doing with people, right? It’s all about the hard people. They were reaching a lot of people for Jesus as Christian Friendliness Association, which began in 1936 without the centers, we built the centers and the camp so that now we have a place to take people, but we also have something that might be magnetic to, because people sometimes far from Jesus, I call ’em everybody future believers, we’re either going to believe on this side or that side attorney. So everybody’s a future believer that future believers might come in here, cool looking, or it has an activity center or a sports center. And if we can get ’em in for whatever reason, we don’t care why they come, we care how they leave, right Daniel, we don’t care why they come to your festivals, right, to have fun and do we care how they leave. So 1936, the women that were in a Bible study really came to.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (01:42):
So 19 36, 19 36,
Mark Drake | Youth Hope (01:42):
It
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (01:44):
Got started.
Mark Drake | Youth Hope (01:45):
Got
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (01:45):
Started. And what’s the story of the start?
Mark Drake | Youth Hope (01:47):
Yeah, good for you. 1936, a group of women in Bible study. We’re seeing a lot of immigrant families to our quad cities in Illinois, part of Quad Cities and Molina and Rock Island, Illinois. And they saw the need to reach out and love and they said they want to give them food and they had a clothing at the time and then teach ’em about God’s love. So it was all by seeing the need that they decided to start Christian Friendness Association, which became Youth Hope and it’s grown since then. Not any different in heart or spirit, but in what our reach and breadth of it is.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (02:23):
So what are some of those core values that have led Youth Hope over the years?
Mark Drake | Youth Hope (02:30):
Yeah, first off, the way it started going, we want to see the needs in the community to say what are the needs? We’re doing a mentor program with schools and there’s need to support teachers. So chaotic in public schools. There’s programs not in schools anymore, so how can we be a partner within? And that’s exactly, they looked and they saw people immigrating saying they need food, they need clothing, they need friendship in God. So again, the core value I think for all of us believers is to say, what’s the need? Because the need’s going to get filled by somebody or something, but we have the hope of the world and the true answer so we can meet physical needs. We still have a food pantry here. If we can meet needs with art because they got art programs are dropped and schools and that leads them to the hope of the world, then we got ’em on the right path.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (03:20):
As I was touring the facility, I’m absolutely amazed. I mean, you have a dance studio, you have an area dedicated to art, you’ve got a beautiful gymnasium, you’ve got a food pantry where you’re giving out food and there’s lots of people lined up there today waiting to get food. And so you’re looking for needs. You’re helping to meet those needs. Now tell me a little bit about your story. It started back in 1936. You weren’t there originally. You’ve come, but you’ve been here for a long time. So how’d you get a part of Youth
Mark Drake | Youth Hope (03:55):
Hope? It ends up being a calling, but it was really motivated by, I was a delinquent youth in the Quad City Surf Factory. My mom lives two blocks from this particular center. And when I came to Christ a month later I left for Yso National Park. Then I left to go to college and then I went to graduate school and seminary and then worked a couple places and I always found a need to come back to the quantities to share Jesus with all the people I hadn’t before I left because I just became a Christian. So my story began that I had decided I was going to come back quad cities and commit for two years. I wanted to share with my old drinking friends, I want to share with family. I wanted to share with people that would be marveled at what God’s done in somebody’s life because I was a delinquent. And so my mom actually saw an ad in the paper about an opening for somebody who worked with troubled youth, said This would be perfect for you. And it was called Christian Friendness Association. And I came here to do that and pursue God that way.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (04:59):
And then you got involved and how long did it take before you rose to being a director?
Mark Drake | Youth Hope (05:08):
Well, that’s a director of an area demeanor, minimum security prison here for juvenile boys. I used to do ministry out there on Wednesday nights too. He said to me, mark, I said, the problem with you is you’re coming as the director of youth, but you’re also coming as the director of the whole organization. So I never got promoted. I came, you started out, I was the director and director of youth and I didn’t know what that encompassed it. I came here to worked trouble youth and they said, well, you’re in charge. And that was it. I had no training anything. I have a master’s in counseling, went seminary in counseling. And so I had no business training. I had no, how do you run an organization? I didn’t have me teaching me. So I sought mentors. So I just kept going forward with my heart to reach people and I’d see needs one of great needs.
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I went to probation, I was going to court with this one boy over and over and the one probation officer pulled me aside and said, he has the biggest file on probation in our county right now. That’s how rough and tough this kid was. I said, that’s why I love him. I think it’s great and he needs the Lord. And they took me back and met, had a probation and everybody’s going, who are you? I work with this Christian organization. They go, oh yeah, we know Christian organizations around. They’re kind of doing their thing. And I realized, Daniel, we should be their hope. We should be the first people they turn to. And I said, Hey, we’ll work with any probationary youth you have. Oh man, we have a need. So again, they say,
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (06:33):
We got all kinds of people we
Mark Drake | Youth Hope (06:35):
Want you to work with. And so that’s where it began the concept. I think God started planting that seed that we needed to be not the best kept secret in the quad cities, but the light on the hill. And so God gave me, I’m a deer hunter and I actually wasn’t getting a deer and I was doing all what spiritual men do. Then you talk to God about the deer. I felt like he was breaking my heart out there one day saying, you don’t really love the kids you’re working with. And I was telling him why I do and what I’ve done of course. And he said, I want you to commit a place for them to come to. So a few years down the road we opened a Rock Island youth center, so they have a place to come to and get off the street.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (07:18):
And so over all these years of ministry, you’ve seen many transformed lives, many miracles that have happened. What are some of the stories of the miracles that God has
Mark Drake | Youth Hope (07:28):
Done? Oh yeah, Danny, when I first started it was real big gang stuff going on in the quad cities and we opened the Rock Island Center and then we opened the Moley Center, we started calling it. And then we opened a camp and we call it the three parts. We go out and find and we pursue ’em. And unfortunately, in fact, I just saw a demonstration of it today, unfortunately quite a bit of the church has stopped looking out here and they look in here
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (07:53):
Instead of looking out at the community, we got to
Mark Drake | Youth Hope (07:55):
Keep going after they stay inward focused and then we open centers to bring them in and then we open camp to get ’em out of their environments for a week or a weekend to just, I call it purification time. It’s kind of like these kids are born on the north side of Denver and they’re drop of water and they’d land in the water and it’s real pretty stream when they’re infant possibly. And then it goes through the sewer system of Denver and they come out and they’re so we’re taking ’em on there. We’re purifying that water for a week or get ’em away from music and their phones and the gangs and everything.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (08:28):
I mean, that must be a great experience for a young person to go from TikTok all the time to being out at the campground.
Mark Drake | Youth Hope (08:37):
And Dan, you were talking about creation. You start with creation. I was one time out there we were cleaning woods to put in our basketball court and using chainsaw and a tough kid came up and he’s involved in a gang and he’s like, man, I got a bathroom. I said, well just find a tree dude. And he’s like, what? Just go out. So there right away they’d never experienced that. So he ran across the whole field to go way down in the woods to go to the bathroom. I don’t know why saw him fixing. So he comes running down, not even all the way finished yet screaming. And he was scared of something and I’m thinking, what in the world could be so scary out here? And he ran into, he called it a prehistoric bird. It was a wild Turkey. It was in a rut. But how far this kid in a housing complex who doing gang stuff? He was from the creator and the created that we have dominion over that and that that’s meant to be enjoyed. And he scared of something he shouldn’t be. And Satan’s twisted his mind to think that’s the fear. But his life, you can put it back in the hood that you
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (09:38):
Might run into a gang, but let me introduce you to it, Mr. Turkeys. Exactly.
Mark Drake | Youth Hope (09:45):
But then as soon as I said, Hey, that’s just the Turkey. Don’t worry about man. You tell anybody I wet on myself, I’ll kill you right away. The tough guy came up right thinking the guy cheese are scared of a Turkey threatening in my life, right? I said, that’s not how in a lesson about ta, you talk to men. And I said, I would never do that. So when the group was coming back, I said, let’s start a water fight. He said, why? I said, because we’re going to get all wet. And so we started a water fight as soon as they got there and everybody was wetting it, right? So he got that. But it’s just that whole thing. So stories like that to me are taking people back in the woods to creation and getting them there so that they can hear the creators whisper out there.
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We’ve been fortunate enough to have quite a few people live with my wife, Sarah and I, and it’s really neat. One Asian boy that became an older son to us, and he don’t want to tell you, but he’s in his forties now, but he was with us and he came to Christ and he had sisters and cousins all involved and he’s not going to get back home. We’re like, well how come? And he goes, because if I don’t get home quick, I won’t even get a place on a couch. And his name’s Sue. And I said, Souk, what are you talking about? He goes, well, my cousins are living with us. And my brother, he had a bunch of brothers, sisters and they’re from Laos and said, and Sarah looked at me and I said, is it okay? She goes, yeah. And I go, well you want to come stay here? And he lived two cities away from us and we offered it to him and it was like one of those funny things in a movie we feel like he shut the door and we start talking about it and he’s knocking and he already went home and packed his one bag. It was that fast and he was moving in and
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It became life-changing from us and our kids because as he walked with the Lord, he’s a minority and they don’t see that. My kids don’t see that they saw souk. He’s our brother and we’ve had different races live with us. And so the life transformation that I’ve seen like souk and his other boy are amazing. But it also always impacts our lives, doesn’t it? Daniel and our kids’ lives.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (11:46):
Tell me some more stories of this transformation in people’s lives that’s happened over a period of time. Because evangelism isn’t just something that happens in a moment. Sometimes it takes a lot of work and effort to bring people to where they’re walking close with God. So what are some of the
Mark Drake | Youth Hope (12:04):
People? Yeah, before we had a camp, I used to take kids in advance to the boundary waters, Minnesota Canadian boundary water. We take ’em out in canoe and backpacks and you camp out there, you make your own latrine just to make ’em really get away from everything. There was a young man, he was a teenager then, but he was involved in a gd, he’s a gangster disciple and said he gave his life to Christ, disciple him. All of a sudden he shoots two people. Fortunately they didn’t die, goes out for pizza. That became his big thing in the community at that time, I remember the chief police at this task force I was on said, how can somebody go out for pizza that? And I said, Hey, if you don’t respect the creator, you don’t respect what he created.
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Well this boy went to prison and I’m sitting in the office in here, I look talking, you say 10 years later he comes walking out and dreads and everything and I said, how you doing? And I’ll leave his name out. But he said, man, he goes, I just got out. I go, I had to come find you. And I go, I’m glad you did. What’s going on? He said, God was speaking to me while I was in prison. I got in solitary a lot. And he said, and all those things that you was telling me they’re true.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (13:21):
And
Mark Drake | Youth Hope (13:21):
He said, I had time to think about all the people that tell me all these other things. It got me where I was at. And he goes, I just want to tell you I believe him now. And to me that’s transformation in God’s time wouldn’t be the way you and I’d want it, right? I’m sure he wouldn’t want that way, but he got there. We lived for this real short time on earth and that 10 years seemed I wasted my whole life. What he kept saying, I said, now lemme tell you they’re true. Satan wants you to believe that because now what was he 30 something? I said, you’re 34 and if you believe that, then you believe there’s nothing left to do but to trash your life or take whatever you want from life. But you’re 34, you can do amazing things. Now he went on to have a family and stuff. So God transforms lives in his time
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (14:06):
And you’ve really seen God do amazing things and a lot of it has come because of your many years of faithfulness. What advice would you give to someone who might be young in the ministry and just starting out like that? I mean you starting out with just a position and now seeing what God has done through youth Hope, I mean is really miraculous. So what advice would you give to someone young in ministry who maybe wants to give their life to serving God?
Mark Drake | Youth Hope (14:37):
Oh yeah. I think two things, and I think you maybe saw this with your parents. One of the best things you can give to as a leader is longevity. Because when you’re there a certain amount of time and then you leave, you’ve grown to where God wants you yet growing us all the time. So he’s wanting to transform your life and by you growing and transforming where he has you, it becomes impactful. And then just even today in our meeting, the one young man that came in, he wanted to see me, he goes, I can’t believe you’re still here. And he’s in his thirties now. No, he’s at 41. Mark, I can’t believe you’re still here. It gave him familiarity. It gave him comfort in him. I introduced him to pastors over there and said, Hey, I’m still going to be around. Let’s go to lunch, but here’s some guys I want you to meet. Because it gives that consistency.
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It is in that journey that we grow the most. And the other thing I’d say to young leaders is if you’re gifted, even if you don’t feel like it, I struggle with the imposter syndrome. Even if you don’t feel like it or think you are and you can’t hear when people say it, you’ll get chances and opportunities and it may look like this is it. I had a great campus ministry recruit me. I had won a ministry for Eastern European Ministry that would be based out of Colorado Springs and they recruited and a mega church that was really on the boom. Then it would be a name you’d know that recruited me three times and it was so honoring. But I remember my pastor and his wife at that time, and so young leaders listen to this, unless you’re released, you don’t have a right to take the calling. And that was a great word to me because that excitement of the potential of growth and the things I could do and maybe make a world impact, but you got to go back home and say, has God released me yet where I’m at? Even if it’s hard right now, even if I’d kind of like to get out because there’s times in every ministry, I’m sure you even had it at times. One more adventure in a different,
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (16:43):
What would you say are some of the biggest challenges you’ve faced with Youth Hope over the years? What does it take to keep a ministry like this going?
Mark Drake | Youth Hope (16:54):
Well, it’s grown. It’s grown and grown and grown. I think it takes humility to say, I dunno how many times I’ve said to people, I’m really not good at anything but finding
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (17:05):
People that God still manages to do something with me.
Mark Drake | Youth Hope (17:08):
My wife and I are working on a book and I titled it, it’s amazing what God gets done with what he’s got to work with in the 50 mistakes I made to build a ministry
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (17:17):
Because so 50 mistakes, I had to, you didn’t have just one or two, you
Mark Drake | Youth Hope (17:20):
Didn’t. I had to narrow it down. There was a lot more I wrote down, but I’m trying to narrow down to go which ones are the most impactful that I can do. I’m trying to do it in one to three page, almost Proverbs
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (17:30):
Going, what were some of a couple of the biggest
Mark Drake | Youth Hope (17:33):
Mistakes? Right? Right off the bat, I came here at 25, my master’s plus at
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (17:38):
25, everything
Mark Drake | Youth Hope (17:39):
I knew everything dude. And I was working at a college campus charge of two halls, the biggest two hall and a full-time interventionist counselor for suicide, ideology and counseling students is alive on college. And I came here and our first building here was a house in the middle of a small residential neighborhood with the stairs that go up the back door. And I remember the first day I reported, I go in early, no one’s there and I go to the back door and there’s aluminum storm door and it was stuck and I was like, God, why did you call me here? I’m so mad at God going, what am I going to do in this little neighborhood? What are you possibly as? I leaned my head against the door and I was like, okay, God, I’m going to give you two years. I told him, I’m going to give you two years. I went down and I got my tools and I fixed the score. The first thing I did is executive director here and it was only called director then, but I was so dishonoring to God that if God calls you and I felt like he’d called me here, but I was already begrudging God for calling me to such a lowly position that nobody knows I’m in this aluminum storm when you’re 25 you kind of want the lights. And I had a lot of attention there. And
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So that was the first one. The first mistake was right on the first morning to go, man, when God calls you embrace it. He’s got a big plan, doesn’t he? And we say that, but we don’t believe it in the moment. That would be the beginning of the mistakes. But the journey was tremendous because he took a young man that was training, counseling and started teaching him how to lead to lead, to lead to lead. And he did that through a lot of people too. Right.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (19:19):
So now you’re going through a time of transition and the reason I’m here is because you’ve asked my sister Esther Joy King to come on board and to take a leadership role here. And what are some of the dreams and visions that God has placed in your heart for the future of youth Hope?
Mark Drake | Youth Hope (19:41):
It’s a really cool question, Daniel, because first year I was here, a board member asked me to put together kind of a five-year dream vision thing without a community. Just say, Hey, what would be for you? And one of the things is to move across the river from Illinois, Iowa, around the Mississippi and reach people in Davenport too because it impact back and forth too. And with your sister, we were just met with people from Davenport, they called us to take over a youth center there and it was fun to be here still to be a part of that beginning.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (20:13):
So that was an idea you had back when you first started
Mark Drake | Youth Hope (20:17):
In the first five years I think goes from God. Yeah, it was right
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (20:19):
Off. That’s one of the interesting things is God puts dreams and vision in your heart and some of them are for next year, but some are for a long
Mark Drake | Youth Hope (20:26):
Time I’ve written on that five year plan, I have to look at it again. I think I showed it to your sister, but I think it was in two years later. It was supposed to happen 30 some years ago in my human mind. But God had started that ball moving way back then knowing one in his time and in human time. We think it’s a long time ago, but not for God. Right.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (20:48):
Well, I’m super excited that my sister Esther is going to be here. What a tremendous blessing that is. Our family comes from a great legacy of ministry and so I’m so proud of her and it really is amazing. I mean I think you’re very wise because a lot of ministries in America, sometimes the leader holds on to everything. I was just last week with a pastor from Japan and he was telling me that 50% of the pastors in Japan are over the age of 80. I mean, that’s a situation where they’ve held on too long and not given it over to the next generation. And so I think you’re very wise to start looking for the next generation. And I’m very honored that you would bring my sister here to be part of Youth Hope. And I think that God always moves from level to level, from glory to glory. And so there’s been great victories in the past. I think there’s going to be great things happening in the
Mark Drake | Youth Hope (21:54):
Future. Yeah, I always hope we’ve had an opportunity in Galesburg to take an armory in Monmouth and we’ve had opportunities to go expand bigger, but I was never able to do it in building what I felt God had me build here. But I dream that and your sister actually started talking about some of those because she has contacts here. So it’s just cool to go, wow, we almost did this and we didn’t, but maybe now it will still come to fruition, but don’t give me too much wisdom that 55, it felt like God nudged me and said, put in your notice. So I put in a notice board, I’m resigning. They’re like, what? And I was like in seven years and I really thought God was saying 62 and I didn’t know financially how or if I could, but it didn’t matter. Once God nudges you because he has his plan and his time, I see it all coming together and it feels great.
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I hope to do a lot more ministry and a lot of other things and still help here, but we’re still growing and I’d rather be going on the way out when it’s still growing than staying so long that it’s going flat or declining. And I’ve seen that in churches being here 30 some years. You see that and you see it in ministry too, that somebody hangs on. It becomes too much of an image of who they are. And this was never mine. It was all God. And for a season of time, never know what guy can do with what he’s got. He didn’t have much to work with, but he did a lot. Right. And he plans to do a lot more.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (23:18):
Yeah. Tell me one more story of someone’s life. Who has changed or what God has done through Youth Hope?
Mark Drake | Youth Hope (23:25):
Yeah, it just happens to be another young man that comes right to mind because he just passed away in 2021. So he was a young man, he was in his forties, but he was around the same time as Sue. His name was kk. He was from Laos too. But in 2020, in March of 2020, he called me from California where he was living his wife and kids and said, Hey, we’ve got to meet with a surgeon to find out my final diagnosis of some liver problems.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (23:56):
And
Mark Drake | Youth Hope (23:56):
He said, we think it’s going to be real bad. And I had heard from him for years. He said, would you come out here? Absolutely, absolutely. So flew out there and went with him and they said, Hey, if you make it till Christmas, it’ll be amazing. And he ended up going through Christmas till the next September. But during that time there was a real time of reconcile him with God again and it never had left him. He still believed in God, but he had from his past and culture, Buddhism was kind of
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Almost like the whole theory of, hey, it’s all those different ways to get to God. And he wanted to carry ’em both together. So because we were so close, and I brought soup too when he came here and visited too before he died in Suk with tomb. But it’s so close, just be able to say to him that we have a jealous God and there is the different God. And here’s word in scripture and I think you know that in your heart. And just to see him, he’s in glory now. And to see it all get adjusted and well and witness to his family. So it’s a privilege when you stay long enough somewhere to be a part of those phone calls and those people and to know one of the greatest wisdom for young leaders like you said earlier, I would say is don’t try to count what you’re doing.
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Just keep doing what you’re supposed to do. Plant the seeds due to water because one comes out of prison, one was on his deathbed, you don’t ever know. And it is another place I failed. I shared the gospel for a year here with Troubled You took ’em to boundary water. I’d had guest speakers videos. I was showing everything. Not one teen gave it life cry. I literally was thinking about quitting my first year going, but I’d made a two year commitment. So I stuck it out. But I was like, I got to be the worst evangelist in the whole world. I tried everything. And we go to the beach up there at the end of a week and about was, and the guy guiding said, Hey, I feel like God’s leading me to do last message. He said, go for it. If God’s lenient go every team. But one gave their life to Christ on the beach that night. Every team and I realized, and they start talking about all they learned from the different speakers. And I realized, Daniel, we have no power. We can’t do. And God wanted to show me, it has nothing to do with you, mark, but be faithful what I ask you to do and in my time I’ll do my thing. And
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (26:22):
I think it’s really significant. You’ve shared these two stories about these two young men from Laos last year. I went to Laos,
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Got to minister there. And ministry there is very difficult. It’s a communist nation, like you said. They’re Buddhist and the Communists actively persecute the church. And for the believers there, they pay a very high price. And so it’s very hard to reach people in Laos, but yet God brought them here and you were able to reach them. And so I think people really need to be looking for opportunities that God puts people right in our backyard to reach the world. Whether it’s immigrants, I mean we have lots of new immigrants coming to every different part of America. Immigrants are coming and some people get upset about it. But I think as the church, we can recognize this is God bringing the mission field to us and it could cost thousands of dollars to fly to the mission field, but right in our backyard, there is a mission field of people that need Jesus. And that’s what Youth Hope is all about, is looking for the mission field right here in the Quad Cities area. We have a lot
Mark Drake | Youth Hope (27:33):
Of immigrants here a lot.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (27:35):
And doing everything you can to reach this mission field that God has brought us.
Mark Drake | Youth Hope (27:39):
I love your image of that too, because even being human, I don’t agree with illegal immigration period. But as a believer, illegal or not, it doesn’t matter if they’re there to share, God may have.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (27:54):
There’s lots of scriptures that talk about welcoming.
Mark Drake | Youth Hope (27:57):
Who cares? Again? They come in our centers, who cares why they came? We care how they leave. So they come here. Wouldn’t it be cool if so many of ’em were coming to Christ? They’re going back to their countries to say, I found the hope that we all need down here. And it’s not more material things or more money or the plethora you can find in America. It’s in your heart. You can be lost sometimes. I think faster in America, everything can become your God. You don’t need God very much over here compared to the places you’ve been, I’m sure.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (28:27):
Well, I’m so impressed being here at Youth Hope. It’s so amazing to see what God has done. It’s amazing. So many miracles. And thank you so much for sharing some of your story today. I really appreciate it and God has more for you. Your story’s not finished yet. Hopefully,
Mark Drake | Youth Hope (28:45):
I’m hoping. I know an evangelists now and I hope to carry his beans and rice on the missions field. You’re welcome to come anytime. We’d love
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (28:52):
To have you brother, mark. Thanks for being on the Evangelism Podcast. Alright, God bless. Thank you.
What is the world’s population? How many people in the world are unreached? What percentage of money given to missions is actually used to reach unreached people groups?
Total Population (2024): 8.1 Billion People
Today there were 164,000 births and 77,000 deaths.
According to a study (based on the 2010 world population of 6.9 billion) by The Pew Forum, there are:
Asia: 4,806,898,007 Percentage: 58.9 %
Africa: 1,515,140,849 Percentage: 18.6 %
Europe: 745,083,824 Percentage: 9.1 %
Latin America and Caribbean: 663,466,072 Percentage: 8.1 %
North America: 385,295,105 Percentage: 4.7 %
Oceania: 46,088,716 Percentage: 0.6 %
Definition: Unreached people groups are those who lack an indigenous church capable of evangelizing their own people. People groups are distinct social groups where shared language and cultural practices create communal belonging. (State of the Great Commission Report, 16).
Fact: Only three percent of international missionaries go to the unreached (who compose 40 percent of the global population). Thus, 97 percent of missionaries are sent to people who already have gospel access. (State of the Great Commission Report, 15).
Fact: Nearly nine out of ten Muslims and Hindus in the world do not personally know a Christian. (State of the Great Commission Report, 15).
Fact: The average Christian gives 1 penny a day to global missions.
November 9, 2024 is going to be a global day for youth evangelism and you are invited to participate. Greg Stier from Dare to Share has put together an app called “Life in Six Words” and a series of training videos that will help young people to share their faith. It is all free and today on the Evangelism Podcast we talk about how you can be involved in this worldwide outreach.
Learn More About the Event: https://www.dare2share.org/events/live/
Transcript:
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (00:00):
November 9th, 2024 is going to be a Global Day for Youth Evangelism and you are invited to participate. Greg Stair, from Dare 2 Share has put together an app called Life in Six Words and a series of training videos that will help young people to share their faith. It’s all free. And today on the Evangelism Podcast, we talk about how you can be involved in this worldwide outreach.
Evangelism Podcast Host (00:39):
Welcome to the Evangelism Podcast with Dr. Daniel King, where Daniel interviews full-time evangelists, pastors, missionaries and normal everyday Christians to discover how they share their faith, their powerful testimonies and amazing stories that will inspire you to reach people with the good news. And now here’s your host, missionary, and evangelist Daniel King.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (01:04):
Welcome to the Evangelism Podcast. I’m Daniel King. I’m excited about telling people about Jesus today. I have a very special friend with me, Greg Stier from Dare 2 Share. Thank you so much for joining me,
Greg Stier (01:16):
Daniel. It’s great man. So glad to be here. Last time we were together was in South Korea and you and I and about 23 others hit the road, hit the streets and did some evangelism. It was awesome
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (01:26):
And it was really a tremendous time. We were at the Uzon Conference on world evangelization and out of 5,000 participants, we managed to get 25 to go out with us and share with people. And I remember we had about 53 gospel conversations and presentations and eight people that responded in a positive manner to the gospel message that we shared with them.
Greg Stier (01:56):
And remember the miracle we’re trying to have that first gospel conversation and the guy couldn’t speak English very well and a guy came out of nowhere who was an 18-year-old who knew a little bit of English, but he translated for us and he wasn’t even with the event. He stayed with us for what three hours and got so excited that he wanted to continue to do evangelism with his friends on the streets of South Korea.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (02:21):
And I think what God did in his life was actually probably the most significant part of the entire time. He got a chance to share his faith. He was discipled some while we were there and he became enthusiastic about talking to people about Jesus. It was really amazing.
Greg Stier (02:39):
And I got to see Daniel firsthand do evangelism. And I just want to tell you, this is a guy that isn’t just talk about it on a podcast, he does it and he gets right in and shares the good news with a big smile on his face. And the joy of Christ is all over him. So testify to Daniel King, man, it was awesome.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (02:58):
Well, that’s what it’s all about. Alright, Greg, you have an exciting event coming up. I mean, your ministry Dare to Share has been challenging people to share their faith for many years now, and you have this exciting event that you’re trying to get people all over the world to participate in it. Tell me about it.
Greg Stier (03:20):
Yeah, it’s called Dare to Share Live. And so we’ve trained millions of teenagers and adults for the last 33 years. We used to do big mega events and bring students in and train ’em and equip ’em and unleash ’em. And once we decided, Hey, it’s time to go global, we said, you know what? Let’s make it on demand. Let’s make it a day of global youth evangelism. Let’s provide the inspiration. So I got key speakers from around the world. We do a drama, there’s training, and then the key part is everybody’s equipped. And then they go out, students go out, adults go out, share the gospel, and there’s City. We give them all the tools. We have a life and six words app for them to be able to share their faith. It’s in 24 different languages. They’re trained, equipped, and then they go out and then they come back and share stories.
(04:05):
And on the app you’re able to see stories from around the world of teenagers, from Nigeria to Nevada, from Dubai to Denver, sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ. It’s completely free. It is an English, Spanish and Portuguese. And so man, if you’re in a country that where the students speak English, just do dare to share live English, Spanish or Portuguese, go to Dare to share live.org, sign your group up, it’s free and it walks you through the steps. And November 1st you’ll download the videos. And November 9th is the Global Day of Youth Evangelism. And if you’re not able to participate, would you be praying for these tens of thousands of teenagers around the world getting trained, equipped to mobilize to share the gospel on November 9th?
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (04:59):
And so this is a big initiative specifically for November 9th. And tell me what you’re hoping to see happen around the world as people participate.
Greg Stier (05:11):
Well, we did it last year on November 11th, and I’m going to tell you what we saw was teenagers in Nigeria where it’s the fifth most persecuted nation in the world, going out and sharing Christ on the streets, calling their friends or Muslim friends in Sharon Christ, Argentina. We had another 3000 students going out, Sharon Christ, wherever across the United States. It was awesome and really, I mean brought tears to my eyes because you can scroll through the hashtag on the Life in six words app and see teenagers from around the world risking everything to go out and share the good news of the gospel. But they’re equipped. It’s not just inspiration and go, it’s like we train you. How do you bring it up? How do you share Christ? How do you explain the gospel? How do you bring somebody to a point of decision? So it’s highly inspirational, it’s very practical and what really makes it work is going out and like we did in Luanne Daniel, we hit the streets with the gospel and you come back just like we did. Then we came back and we all shared stories. These youth groups share stories, but they also hear stories from around the world from other teenagers. And so for a teenager in Lincoln, Nebraska where there’s 20 kids in the room, they may feel, well, there’s not a lot of us. But then they realize, man, there’s not tens of thousands. There’s thousands of tens all over the world sharing Christ. And so our vision ultimately is to see this happen in every country so that every teen everywhere can hear the gospel from a friend.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (06:48):
So if my friends who are listening want to participate in this worldwide outreach on November the ninth, where can they find more information? Where can they sign up and get involved in what’s happening?
Greg Stier (07:00):
Yeah, just go online to Dare to share live.org. That’s the number two Dare to share live.org and register and it’ll walk you through the steps. So what you need to do is very simple, and again, the videos which you’ve already filmed pre-filed, the videos are available November 1st you download those and English, Spanish or Portuguese, and then November 9th you gather your students and you show ’em the videos. You can have your own worship band if you’d like and everything else you can make it a big, big event or it could be 10 of you in a room and then you go out and share Christ and it is awesome. It is really, really cool.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (07:45):
So a youth pastor could use this to equip his young people in order to share their faith or someone who leads a small group of young people or even a young person who’s listening. If you’ve got a group of friends and you want to go out and do some evangelism, they can use this to equip themselves and how to share their faith. And then to go out and actually lead someone to Jesus.
Greg Stier (08:08):
And I would say even if you’re an adult and you say, I have an adult small group, adults need to lead the way. We just did a research project. The number one impact on whether a teenager shares the faith is if they have adults in their lives that are actively sharing the faith. So it’s something you could do as adults, college groups. We have a ton of college groups doing it. What’s really, really cool is yesterday I was backing out, I was on the other side of town, I was backing out, this is not cool, I almost hit you guys. I was talking on my phone. That was a bad move. I got out, I thought they were angry, I was going to apologize, and I knew one of the guys, and he’s a ministry guy that used to go to Dare to Share and he’s like, Hey, this guy trains teenagers how to share the gospel.
(08:48):
And this other guy who I’d never met goes perfect. He goes, I have an 11-year-old, she started a bible study on our public school campus with 25 other 11 year olds and they want to share their faith but they don’t know how and I didn’t know what to do, so show me what to do. And I said, dare to share live. And I explained it and he’s like, yes, dare to share live going to be led with a group of 25 11 year olds on November 9th here in Denver, because I almost hit a dude, almost hit her dad with a car.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (09:21):
Well that’s awesome when God can turn something like almost hitting someone into an opportunity to get people involved in witnessing. Alright, so you have mentioned several times this app that you’ve developed life in six words that’s available wherever apps are downloaded, just life in six words.
Greg Stier (09:46):
Yeah. If you go to your app store and just look up life in six words, it’s the numeric six life in six words, and you can download it again. It’s in 24 languages and growing. And what’s cool is you go through the app and you put your six words in, and when you want to share the gospel, you just ask someone, how would you describe your life in six words? And they choose from words like relationship, freedom, fun, god, meaningless, happiness, family struggles, adventure, money, purpose, routine, broken pain. And then you, after they push the words, you ask them, tell me why you chose those words. You hear their story and people just open up and then you say, can I share with you my words and I have my words and that’s how I share my testimony. Then can I share with you God’s words? And it’s just a simple gospel acrostic that it is like a digital track. If you can swipe and read, you can share the gospel using this, and you get all the way through and it spells gospel and then you ask ’em at the end, are you ready to trust Christ? If they push yes, water comes out and baptizes them, no, that’d be cool. That doesn’t happen, but that’s a later update. We’ll have that, but it’s a really, really simple way to share the gospel. Just go on your app store life in six words.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (11:10):
One of the things I’ve noticed is that a lot of people don’t really know what the true gospel is. And we had some conversations about this when we were out looking for people to talk to in South Korea, but just take a moment and share what is the gospel? What do people really need to know about the gospel?
Greg Stier (11:29):
Yeah, so you and I talked about an illustration. I use a ladder versus a chair. So most world religions have a ladder approach. You got to climb, you got to stop or try or cry. You have the 10 commandments of Judaism, you have the doctrines and covenants of Mormonism. You have the five pillars of Islam. You can go on and on eightfold path of Buddhism. There’s that. You climb, only Christianity is a chair. Well, there’s no rungs to climb. It’s not about you trying or turning or giving or I mean it’s about resting, sitting, relying on the finished work of Christ. When you put your faith alone in him and what he’s done for you on the cross, you’re saved. And that is a mind blowing because our flesh wants to climb. But Jesus said, you have to humble yourself. It’s not about what you can do, it’s about what he has done.
(12:26):
You receive that by faith, and so I dare to share. We use that simple gospel acrostic. God created us to be with him. O is our sins separated us from God. S his sins cannot be removed by good deeds. P is paying the price for sin. Jesus died and rose again. He is everyone who trust in him alone, his eternal life and hell is life with. Jesus starts now and forever. And that’s the gospel that we kind of train students in. And right in the center of it is a bloody cross in an empty tomb that Jesus paid the price in our place for our sin and he rose victorious from the dead and through faith alone in him we have life. And that is repentance. When you change your mind about trusting in the ladder and trusting in yourself and you put your faith in Christ alone, you rest on the finished work of Christ.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (13:18):
Yeah, religion always says, do you have to do this? You have to do that. But when Jesus died on the cross, he said, it is finished. And so true. Christianity says, done, done, done. Jesus accomplished everything that needs to be accomplished on the cross, and now we rest in it. We can sit down because we don’t have to strive or strain or work really hard in order to earn anything. All we have to do is accept what Jesus accomplished for us on the cross.
Greg Stier (13:47):
Well, and Daniel, what’s so cool about that is once you get that and you understand the grace of God and you receive it by faith, then you actually want to go all in and I’m going to run up and pick up my cross every day and follow Christ. Not because I have to be saved. I’m grateful and it’s a whole different motivation, man. I’m jacked to pick up the cross. I’m pumped up. Let’s go because I’ve received the free gift of eternal life. And now it’s like I told a guy one time, I was in a mall, talked to two gang guys. One dude was big, he was jacked, and the other guy, he wasn’t interested in listening. So I talked to the big guy and he was in a gang, and I said, I went through the gospel and he understood. I said, does that make sense?
(14:27):
He goes, yeah. I go, would you put your faith in Christ right now? He goes, yeah. I said, where are you going to go when you die? He goes, heaven. I go, how do you know because you live a good life. He goes, no, Jesus died from my sins. And I go, okay, then you’re in the family, so you got it. But then I said, let me ask you a question. If I had a million dollars in a duffel bag and I gave it to you as a free gift, would you take that free gift and then punch me in the face, push me to the ground, Goodfellas boots, stop me, spit on me and walk away? And he goes, no, I’d buy you a hamburger, man. Go. Okay, why? He goes, because I’m grateful. I said, God is just giving you something better than a million dollars.
(15:01):
He’s giving you the free gift of eternal life through faith in his son, yours simply by faith. Now you’re going to spit in his faith, you’re going to serve him. He goes, I’m going to serve. I go, why? Because you have to, because you’re grateful. He goes, because I’m grateful. Right? Then he got it. Serving Christ, surrendering Christ is a response to that free gift of eternal life. After we receive it, then we get the privilege and opportunity of going all in for Jesus because we are grateful. And that’s a whole different thing than religion.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (15:29):
Amen. Well, I am grateful, and if you’re listening, you’re grateful for what Jesus has done for you, then you will want to share that with others. And so November 9th is the big day. I encourage you to participate in it, get out, share your faith, and one more time, give us the website where people can sign up. I want you to go there right now, sign up and get involved. Download the video training and the information. Get the app on your phone so that you can be better at sharing your faith.
Greg Stier (16:02):
Yeah, it’s just dare2sharelive.org. That’s the number two. Dare2sharelive.org.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (16:10):
So go sign up right now and participate November 9th this year and worldwide, I believe God will give a great harvest of souls. Greg, thanks so much for being on the Evangelism podcast.
Greg Stier (16:23):
Thanks my brother.
Evangelism Podcast Host (16:24):
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Ukraine used to be known as the “breadbasket” of Europe but now, because of the war, many people in Ukraine are going hungry. Who will step into the gap and help feed Ukraine during this time of need? Today, Daniel King interviews Yuriy Boyechko. His organization “Hope for Ukraine” is providing humanitarian aid and spiritual support to the people of Ukraine in the midst of the ongoing war.
Key points:
Learn more about Hope for Ukraine: https://hfu.org/
Transcript:
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (00:19):
Welcome to the Evangelism Podcast. I’m Daniel King and I’m excited about telling people about Jesus Today. I have a very special guest with me. Yuri, thank you for joining me on the Evangelism Podcast.
Yuriy Boyechko | Hope for Ukraine (00:32):
Thanks for having me. Thank you.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (00:34):
You are working in Ukraine. Ukraine has been in the news a lot lately because of the war. Tell me, what is the situation on the ground in Ukraine and what are you doing to help?
Yuriy Boyechko | Hope for Ukraine (00:47):
Yeah, so I’m founder and CEO of for Ukraine. So we’ve been, it’s a humanitarian aid organization that we’ve been working on the ground in Ukraine since 2016, way before the full scale war and after full scale war that took place in February, 2022. Our main ministry in Ukraine has been distributing food kits to family needs. So on average right now we provide 1500 foot kids to families living in frontline towns where the full scale war is taking place. So right now, I mean we are two and a half years into the full scale war and what we see on the ground is how they say after afterwards, famine comes in and we see a huge number of people that are falling behind poverty lines because all just the regular citizens, the ones who had some kind of savings, they have exhausted that. And also Ukraine before the war was a bread basket of Europe as far as the grain production and everything that’s been cultivated in there.
(02:19):
But right now because of shellings and bombings, a lot of fertile soil that was cultivated before farmers are not able to use. So basically we see the Ukraine as a country going from being a bread basket of the Europe to become a baggers of Europe. And that’s me as a Ukrainian. I came here when I was 16, so I lived in Ukraine 16 years. My life, it’s set to see how evil forces of devil I can use something like war to just rev whole country and destroy mailings of lives. So I mean the situation is bleak. I mean it’s not here in the US and other parts of the world. It’s not on the frontline line on the news, but because other things have come up, but we work on the ground every day and we see that things are not getting better, they’re getting worse, they’re getting worse for regular citizens and families that we serve.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (03:33):
And so in this time of desperation, how is your organization able to help the people on the ground in Ukraine? Tell me what’s happening on a day-to-day basis.
Yuriy Boyechko | Hope for Ukraine (03:47):
So just to give you an idea that we feed in 15, a hundred families each week. We give them food kit and a foot kit, and the food kit can feed a family of poor people up to 10 days. So the way the process works, we have our hub that’s located in Louis Ukraine, that’s a western Ukraine close to Polish border. And then we work with about a hundred different partners all across Ukraine. Many of them are faith-based organizations. So every day we have two to three volunteering events that come to our big warehouse in Weave. They load up with the food kits and they bring into hard head zones. So most of our areas that we serve are folks in the Nets region, Herson region, McLay region, Haki region, Summa Region. A lot of these territories, for example in Herson region, they used to be occupied by Russians.
(04:56):
So folks live there, the infrastructure has been completely destroyed. Some of the families, they have not had light or running water there for two years. So basically for them, these food kits that our volunteers bring, it’s basically a lifeline because there is no steady supply. There’s not a supermarket where you can go in and buy stuff. And so that’s what we do every day and that’s our main program. The second one will also provide afterschool program for children of war where we give kids opportunity after school to go to arts and craft classes. So we have tutoring opportunities because we understand that right now in Ukraine, most of the kids are raised by single mothers because most of the male population in the army defending the country, a lot of them have been, just to give you an idea, right now in Ukraine there is a 70,000 ties.
(06:12):
And just to give you a comparison, France, which is twice the size of Ukraine as far as population goes, they have about 20,000 altogether. So you’re looking at a lot of folks, a lot of dads who come back home and they not capable of supporting families no more. So a lot of that falls on mother’s shoulders. So we as the organization trying to support them by giving the kids free access to afterschool program. Also we run internal displaced center in review Ukraine, the same place where we have our warehouse, we have a big living quarters where we take in folks who run from the front line, we place them there and then we try to find them permanent place to stay, whether it’s in Ukraine in the western side of Ukraine, some of them they moved to central Europe and stuff.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (07:21):
What is happening spiritually in Ukraine, often when there is peace, people become complacent spiritually, but then in times of war and displacement, people start turning to God for help. And so what are some of the spiritual needs and what is your organization doing to help people spiritually?
Yuriy Boyechko | Hope for Ukraine (07:47):
So first of all, just to give you an idea, in our refugee center we have a chapel there. So all the folks who come there and stay there, most of them don’t know Christ, dunno about God. So every Sunday we have church service there where we don’t force anybody to go there, but we encourage them to come. And a lot of people who came through the doors of our center eventually dedicated their life to Jesus. So just to give you an idea, since the start of the full scale war, I think we had over 3000 individuals who came through these doors and some of them, so the way our center works is they don’t have a time limit how long they can stay there. It’s not like we give them two weeks and you got to get out. Some of them been living there for a year, year and a half, and some of them, and that’s what I see the best method to preach gospel is through your lifestyle. Some these folks, they come to the center and everybody, all staff that all who work there, they born and believers, and by the way they’ve been treated by the way we taken care of them. They start asking me, can I find out what’s different about you guys? Let me hear about the good news of Jesus Christ. And that’s a lot of them has been become devoted Christians by watching our team and our staff conduct them themself in a Christ manner.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (09:31):
Are you actively doing events where you are sharing the gospel with people and helping them to come to faith in Christ?
Yuriy Boyechko | Hope for Ukraine (09:41):
So we do food distribution events and humanitarian distribution events almost weekly, whether it’s for displaced folks or the people in the frontline. So before each event we have someone who shared the word and the pray for them and letting them know that the best hope is found in Jesus because some of them come through, they went through hell and back. And a lot of them they question if God exists, why He has allowed me to go through all this horror that I’m going through. And we use each and every opportunity to let them know that no matter how bad the current situation is that Jesus still got their back, but places like her son, her son is, it’s been liberated but still under constant attacks, right by auxiliary drones and stuff like that on Sundays, churches packed there and after every service there, our volunteers there, they cook fresh meals for them folks who come there. So it’s this time of desperation. I think we see a lot of people open to the gospel more and more. And because we have a lot of opportunities because of these constant eight give giveaway events, there’s events that we serve thousand people at a time. It’s like a small crusade. And so to some of our partners, they put Bible verse on the foot bags that they give away to people. So every chance, all our partners are faith-based, they use every opportunity to tell people about God.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (12:10):
Tell me a little bit about your story. I saw that you graduated from Regent University and how did you get started doing this type of ministry in Ukraine?
Yuriy Boyechko | Hope for Ukraine (12:23):
Yeah, so my story is I come from a family of Protestant bishop. My father is a Pentecostal bishop in Ukraine. He’s still alive, he lives in iv. When I was four years old, he was actually put to prison by communists for preaching gospel for smuggling the Bible into Ukraine during those days. So there was 1986 and he did two years there for that. So basically as far as serving people, serving God, and that’s always been integrated in our family. Then I came here, I did undergrad in Zion Bible college that’s in Rhode Island. And then I went to do film in region university. So after that I spent some time in the media industry. But my whole life, whatever I did as far as a business or my daily life, I was trying to use my talent and my ability to represent Christ right in every marketplace I was in.
(13:45):
So the way hopefully Ukraine started is that there was annexation of Crimea that took place in 2014. And at that time we already saw first wave of refugees and also on the ground we’ve seen a lot of, there was a lot of kids was treatable medical conditions that because the parents didn’t have money to pay for extra medical treatments, these diseases would progress in their lives. So that’s how we started to try to help these families who were poor, who were kids who were sick. And then little but little, I believe this is all been designed by God from the beginning because I never studied, I never plan on studying nonprofits. And nonprofit is really hard grueling kind of work. It’s not like business where you have a goods and you sell it and then you get money back here it’ss a different story. But God used everything to set the platform when 2022 would come because just to give you an idea, since the full scale war, think right now we have served 97 million meals in Ukraine.
(15:15):
So with that amount and 1500 families a week, and that’s basically 1500 opportunities to tell someone about Jesus each week. So I would never be able to do it through a regular means of evangelism like going on a stadium. So I think it’s this tool and this organization, God used greatly to take so many people out of poverty, give people hope and tell them about Christ. We don’t can keep the records of how many selections or whatever, but I know just if the snapshot from the people who come through our doors in the center, those 3000 something individual, I mean I know about 80% of them have found Christ.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (16:22):
That’s amazing. It’s horribly tragic what is happening in Ukraine. And eventually I pray the war will come to an end and when that happens, there’s going to be so much ministry that needs to be done in Ukraine for many years to come. I mean the scars from this war are going to be long and deep lasting. What role do you see that your organization will have in helping to heal after the war is over?
Yuriy Boyechko | Hope for Ukraine (17:01):
I mean it’s all of the about, because what we see right now is about 80% of kids have some kind of post-traumatic disorders now developed by war, right? We have a lot of people who struggle with insomnia because of the constant air rates that and anxiety, fear and anger. I mean, you got to understand that the healing process after everything’s said and done is going to be the whole generation because some of the questions that we get a lot, God is so good and why this happening to our country? Why this happen to my family? And that’s something that we will have to work with to try to rebuild these lives, to rebuild them spiritually, emotionally, and also on the regular level as far as getting folks at home job education. Because just to give you an idea that most of the folks, they lived okay life before 2022.
(18:35):
And if all of a sudden you lose everything, you have no home to go to, you have no job, your career, everything. And basically all you have is you have one mattress to sleep on now and two meals a day to eat. And you have no way what you’re going to do with your life. This is basically, I mean, it’s very hard for these individuals to process. So us as a organization, I think we are going to get involved a lot into counseling, rebuilding lives. And I think the most important is for these people to find closure. For them to understand that, okay, no matter what happened, the God still has a plan for me. And the way forward is to finding Jesus anchoring my life into him and then he will be that person next to me who will never leave me or forsake me. So no matter what happened to me. So I think that’s where we will go right now. We still in emergency response and we do what we can because I always tell that I feel like I’m a firefighter. I have to this fire one day we plan on doing Christmas gifts for Christmas season and then we are dealing with energy crisis. So we have to divert into providing January this, right? So that’s where we at right now. But I think long run, it’s going to be rebuilding lives and helping these families to get reestablished again.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (20:19):
Well, thank you so much for what you’re doing to help the people of Ukraine during this very crucial time. God has prepared you for such a time as this. If someone is listening and they have a heart to help Ukraine, maybe they want to help to feed people, what is the website or a way that they can get in touch with you, find out more about your organization?
Yuriy Boyechko | Hope for Ukraine (20:47):
Yeah, they can go to our website, hvu.org and they can find more there. They can contribute over our feeding program. They can learn more how they can help in Ukraine. So it’s hf.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (21:05):
And that stands for hope for Ukraine, HFU,
Yuriy Boyechko | Hope for Ukraine (21:08):
Correct? Yeah. Hope for Ukraine. Yes.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (21:11):
Wonderful. Well, let’s finish by praying for Ukraine and would you pray, but instead of praying in English, could you pray in Ukrainian for the people of Ukraine?
Yuriy Boyechko | Hope for Ukraine (21:27):
Sure.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (22:01):
Amen. Well, thank you so much for being on the Evangelism podcast.
Yuriy Boyechko | Hope for Ukraine (22:06):
Thank you Daniel.
Can God use a chicken farm as a tool for evangelism and church planting? Find out on today’s episode of The Evangelism Podcast. Daniel King interviews Ryan Brown, the CEO of Open Doors, a ministry dedicated to helping the persecuted church. The organization was started by Brother Andrew who was known as God’s Smuggler for his work smuggling Bibles into the former Soviet Union. Today, Open Doors continues its work of standing up for Christians who suffer persecution and discrimination.
Learn more about Open Doors: https://www.opendoorsus.org/en-US/
Transcript:
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (00:00):
Can God use a chicken farm as a tool for evangelism in church planting? Find out on today’s episode of The Evangelism Podcast, I’m going to interview Ryan Brown, the CEO of Open Doors, a ministry dedicated to helping the persecuted church. The organization was started by Brother Andrew, who was known as God smuggler for his work, smuggling Bibles into the former Soviet Union. Today open Doors continues its work of standing up for Christians who suffer persecution and discrimination.
Evangelism Podcast Host (00:48):
Welcome to the Evangelism Podcast with Dr. Daniel King, where Daniel interviews full-time evangelists, pastors, missionaries and normal everyday Christians to discover how they share their faith, their powerful testimonies and amazing stories that will inspire you to reach people with the good news. And now here’s your host, missionary, and evangelist Daniel King.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (01:15):
Welcome to the Evangelism Podcast. I’m Daniel King. I’m excited about telling people about Jesus today. I have a very special guest with me, Ryan Brown from Open Doors. Thank you so much for joining me today.
Ryan Brown | CEO of Open Doors (01:28):
Oh, Daniel, thank you. It’s such a privilege to be here with you today.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (01:31):
Well, tell me a little bit about what your organization Open Doors does.
Ryan Brown | CEO of Open Doors (01:37):
Yeah, so Open Doors this next year will actually be 70 years ago that the organization was started and was started by a gentleman that’s come to be known as Brother Andrew. And he smuggled Bibles behind the Iron Curtain and that work gave as he responded to the needs of the church that was experiencing persecution in those areas that work, smuggling Bibles and gospel materials gave birth to an international ministry where we are now working in over 70 countries around the globe where Christians are most persecuted or discriminated against because of their faith in Jesus. So every year we put out a world Watch list in which we highlight the 50 countries around the globe where Christians most suffer because of that decision to follow Jesus. And we are really honored and humbled by the privilege that we get to come alongside the church in all of these areas in which it’s being persecuted to support the church in those contexts so that they can continue to be the hands and feet of Christ right there.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (02:47):
So on this year’s World Watch list, what are some of the countries where our Christian brothers and sisters experience the most persecution right now?
Ryan Brown | CEO of Open Doors (02:58):
Yeah, question. I think one of the big trends that we have seen this year, and I should say that this has really been a multi-year trend, which is continuing to escalate at alarming levels, but has been just the incredible violence in Sub-Saharan Africa. And more specifically, I think one of the areas where you see that played out the most is actually in Nigeria. In Nigeria, we saw more people martyred for their faith this last year than all other places in the globe combined. But there has been massive of displacement that has occurred throughout Sub-Saharan Africa just because of the instability. And it’s not just Christians that have been impacted, but Christians have been uniquely impacted in that there are about 16.2 million Christians across Africa that have been displaced and currently living in either internally displaced people’s camp IDP camps or some of those are formal, some of those are informal and Christians have been targeted and Christians have been the focus of much of the instability, the targets I should say, of much of the instability there.
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For those folks that are living in IDP camps, it’s been a difficult proposition. Many of them because of their Christian faith have been overlooked or have been neglected in the distribution of aid and those types of things by others that might share the same faith of the folks running the camps. So a very, very difficult situation for Christians throughout Sub-Saharan Africa and we see an increase in the number of countries there. We continue to see other areas where some of the totalitarian regimes just continue to exert influence and make things very, very difficult for Christians where the solidarity and the community that Christians exhibit is seen as a threat to the state. And so governments will crack down harshly on the church and those areas, these are places like North Korea and places like that. Just to give people a little bit of context, North Korea is on the top of the world watch list.
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It has been for a number of years and this is a country where Christians and their entire family can be in prison just for being in possession of a Bible. So very, very challenging and difficult for Christians there. We also see the world watch list areas like in Central and South America where as you take a look at the cartels, the drug cartels and those types of things in these areas as pastors have either spoken out against the cartels or have been reaching out to their communities in ways that are pulling young people into the faith and out of the cartels and out of the lifestyle that would financially support the cartels, the leaders of those cartels see the church as bad for business and so they’ve targeted those churches trying to tear them down. So those are some of the trends that we’ve seen emerging over the course of the last year.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (06:43):
Okay. Let’s talk about some of the things that you mentioned. First of all, Nigeria, I’ve been over there to Nigeria and actually taught at the largest mission school in Nigeria, run by the Redeemed Church, which has churches all over Nigeria. And I remember the leader of this mission school he had was telling us stories about some of their graduates that had gone up into northern Nigeria, planted churches and the churches were burned down, the Christians were killed. In one case, they actually took all the members of the congregation, put them inside a church building, burned the church down around them. And I saw pictures, very graphic photos of the charred bodies that were left there. And so tremendous persecution, South Korea or North Korea. Last week I was at the Uzon Conference
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In Korea and it was really beautiful to see the South Korean church praying for the North Koreans. Their society really has tragically been split in half for many years now and technically they’re still at war. And the South Korean Church is earnestly praying for God to bring peace to the Korean Peninsula. And it was actually really beautiful to see. And then the drug cartels down in central and South America. My parents were missionaries in Mexico. We grew up in Juarez, Mexico, right across the border from El Paso, Texas. And at one point that was the area that had the largest number of murders of any city in the world because of the drug trafficking that was coming through Juarez. And so in our services we would often have drug cartel members that would come to our services, sometimes would persecute the Christians. One of our close pastor friends that we worked with in Juarez in his church, he had a drug rehab program and obviously the cartel was not happy about him helping to set people free from an addiction to drugs.
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And so they came in, they told him to stop, he didn’t stop. And the next time they came in, they came in, they shot four people including the pastor that we were working with. And so this persecution is a reality on the ground around the world. What do you think should be the response of Christians here in America who hear these stories? We live sometimes very comfortable lives, but our brothers and sisters are being persecuted for their faith in these different countries. What should be the response of people that hear these stories about what is happening to Christians worldwide?
Ryan Brown | CEO of Open Doors (09:59):
Yeah, such a great and beautiful question. I think first and foremost, that response should always be one of prayer because when the people of God are persecuted or discriminated against because of their faith in Jesus, that first and foremost is a spiritual issue. And so prayer is not a strategy of last resort in this case, prayer is the frontline of what we should be doing. It’s the first way that we should be engaging. And I can’t tell you how often I’ve heard from our brothers and sisters that are experiencing persecution when asked in what ways we can be supporting and helping them. That is so often the very first things off their lips. It’s just don’t forget us. It is such an encouragement for folks to know that brothers and sisters around the globe are lifting them up in prayer. One of the byproducts of persecution can often just be this feeling of isolation that individuals are alone and whether that be because they’re imprisoned or just because they’re cut off from different aspects of their culture and to know that they are part of a global body of believers that is lifting them up, that’s a powerful encouragement.
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I think one of the other ways that we truly looked to support and come alongside is the church can experience, and we kind of characterize that persecution in two different ways, painting with a broad brush in some ways we characterize as smash of persecution. So these are some of the things that we’ve been talking about where persecution is carried out with violence and whether that be through actual people being martyred for their faiths or physically beaten or assaulted or property being destroyed or burned, that idea of a physical violence is a smash of persecution. But there’s also another very real reality that threatens the church in these areas and that’s what we call the squeeze of persecution. And this is a dynamic in which churches, individuals have been denied access to education, they’ve been denied access to employment. And for Christians in those areas, if they can’t feed their families, they’re forced to leave.
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And that’s what can gut the church in these areas is that when leaders have to leave the area because they can no longer survive or live in these areas that decimate the church. And that’s one of the ways that the church comes under attack. So one of the areas ways that we come alongside is to support the church in these areas with things like livelihood programs or literacy programs that allow the church and individuals in the church to remain rooted in those very very areas and allow them to continue to be the church in those areas. And so you’d mentioned that in many ways, many of us live in a position of comfort that’s not necessarily something that we should inherently feel guilty about. Paul talks about the God of all comfort has extended us comfort, but the reason that he’s extended his comfort is not just so that we can be comfortable, but so that we in exchange can be a comfort to others.
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We can extend that comfort as the hands and feet of Christ to others. And so with some of these blessings and some of these resources that Christ has given us, we have an opportunity to mobilize those to our brothers and sisters. Scripture also talks about when one part of the body hurts, we all hurt. And as we believe that, as we act according to that, it gives us opportunity to come alongside and support these livelihood programs to support these education programs that again allow individuals to continue to remain the church right there in these areas that so desperately need the gospel, but areas in which the gospel is so aggressively attacked.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (14:19):
What does your organization open doors specifically do to help Christians in these persecuted areas? You mentioned just now literacy programs. You mentioned helping them out with vocational training. Are you still smuggling Bibles like Brother Andrew did back in the day?
Ryan Brown | CEO of Open Doors (14:41):
Yeah, so it was over a million Bibles or so that were distributed this last year. Obviously it is changed quite a bit with the internet, those types of things as far as what access looks like to some of those things. And so getting people access to the word of God has and will continue to remain a priority at a core part of our organization, the word is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword. And it’s the tool for discipleship and to grow in our faith with Christ. And so the word of God is just critical and central and so that very much is still remains apart in some cases, yes, it does require a covert type of presence to be able to get those Bibles distributed. Other times it’s not the case and it’s just a matter of being able to mobilize some of those scriptures in some cases too.
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I mean especially where illiteracy is high, there are things like digital audio bibles that we’re able to provide so that people can hear the word of God in places like North Korea, like we’ve mentioned we have, it’s very, very difficult to operate within the country and their are economic sanctions and things like that that have to be observed. But we are able to broadcast radio across borders and proclaim and read the word of God in those contexts as well. So yeah, the Bible is a big, big part of what we continue to do. We also do other things such as providing trauma counseling and care and operating safe houses in different locations. I don’t think that it’s hard for us to imagine that even with the presence of Christ in our lives, there are people that have experienced horrific expressions of persecution that can be emotionally and psychologically damaging and scarring.
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And to be able to offer with Christ as the center piece of that counseling and support and to walk people through that and help walk with them back to a position of health, spiritual, emotional, and physical health, that can be a big part of our work in places like North, excuse me, in Sub-Saharan Africa rather where talked about the IDP camps and things like that. There’s some of that that very much looks like some of the emergency relief type of a situation. Like we’re bringing in food items and providing area access to food for folks in other areas, it is more kind of that socioeconomic development. There are places where I won’t necessarily mention specifically just for the security of those believers there, but there’s one country that I know of that I think by all accounts most of us would kind of consider close to the gospel.
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But in that area we’re working with about 500 house churches and that when we’ve come alongside those churches, one of the things that they’ve said is they would say that over the coming years they would like to double, they’d like to see 500 more house churches planted. And so the way that they have asked us to come alongside was to actually develop a chicken farming school in which these pastors, one, they, they’re able to draw a livelihood from that, but it gave them a cover under which they could be going to a lot of different houses and a lot of different people to meet people to provide training. And under that umbrella that gave them opportunity to provide the training to help plant additional house churches. And so it can look different in different types of context. I think that the big thing is that we recognize that the Holy Spirit is living, working and active in all of these places.
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And so it’s not about what open doors is going to import through customs or smuggle or those types of things. It’s about how do we come alongside what the Holy Spirit is doing right there in these different places? How do we come alongside and support the church in what it is doing and what Christ has called it to do and who Christ has called it to be right there in those contexts. So that looks different. God is working in ways in Eastern Asia that looks different than even central Asia. It looks different in Africa or South America, but God is at work in these places. His Holy Spirit is present. And so we really looked to contextualize it according to that work that Christ is doing.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (20:10):
Well, I’ve done evangelism in a lot of different parts of the world and I’m a student of different evangelism techniques and ways for reaching out, but that’s the first time I’ve ever heard of the Chicken Farm Evangelistic tool starting a chicken farm as a way to give people an excuse to go door to door and to plant house churches. What a tremendous story. So if someone is listening and they want to find out more about your organization or they want to help to support you in your mission to help the persecuted church, what is your website? What’s a way for them to find out more about you?
Ryan Brown | CEO of Open Doors (20:53):
Yeah, it’s open doors us.org, open doors us.org. And as you go there, you’ll see it a number of resources. And one of the things that I often will point people towards is that World Watch list that I mentioned earlier that highlights the 50 countries around the world. That is a resource that we’ve been doing it for 30 some years now. And originally started as an in-house tool just as we were looking to understand how the face of persecution was changing and evolving and emerging or declining in different parts of the globe. We had our teams in place to help inform that and began putting a very systematic approach to look at that. And we began to realize that others ministries might find this helpful. And so we began making that available. And I think we were, many were surprised by just the reality that it wasn’t just churches or Christian ministries, it began to reference this information.
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But people like the State Department and the UN and other types of academia began to utilize this as a resource because under that broader freedom of religious belief discussion, it can be difficult at times to look through the specific lens and understand for different faiths what that looks like as far as what does persecution look like for Christians. And so we’re able to provide that resource, but that resource, when folks engage with that, I mean, it’s not just the information talking about the horrors or the realities that believers face there, but it also provides very specific prayer points. So many times in these situations it can be difficult to even know how to pray in some of these situations. And these prayer points are prayer points, not just things that we’re praying for the church there, but they’re things that the church has vocalized as ways that they would ask for us to pray.
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So we’re not just praying for the church, we’re praying with the church because these are the ways that they’re praying as well. And so would always point people towards that as a first resource to engage with that. You’ll see different things on there as far as different prayer calendars and things that people can utilize just to even get a little bite size piece of information that on a daily basis that they can work that into their daily cadence of prayer and their routine of locking arms with our brothers and sisters as one body of Christ around the globe. And so yeah, we pray that those resources would be a valuable resource to folks here in the United States.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (23:52):
Let’s finish up with a specific story. Can you tell me about an individual or a family that opened doors was able to help during a time of persecution?
Ryan Brown | CEO of Open Doors (24:05):
Yeah, there are many, and I think one, I have the opportunity to read many of these stories, but I think that we can always be impacted in different ways with individuals that we’ve had opportunity to meet and to dialogue with. And so there’s a gentleman that I won’t mention the country that he’s from because for security concerns, but he was a leader in the Muslim church in that area, and he was sent to a country in Europe as part of his training for Jihad. And I know for many of us when we hear Jihad that we can focus on a specific aspect of that, the idea of terrorism or things along those lines. And that can be an expression, but that there can be a broader definition of that where in some cases we might also consider a bit more like we would maybe missionaries or things along those lines.
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But he was sent to this European country and had a hate for Christians. He’d been told a narrative of who Christians were and what they stood for all of his life. And as he came to Germany, he had to find a place to live. He had to find some employment as he was learning about the culture there. And it just so happened that he got a job and ended up living with a family that were Christians and they knew he was Muslim. They said, we’re not going to try to convert you, but we want you to be part of our family and all of these things. And he began to experience through them something that he couldn’t reconcile with everything that he had learned about Christians up to that point in time. And it honestly sent him on a tailspin because he started to question everything.
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He got involved in drugs, he got involved in alcohol, and at a point of desperation, he cried out and said, God, I don’t know if you’re real, but you need to tell me who you are. And fairly quickly thereafter, he had a dream one night and he was in the market shopping and a shopkeeper invited him in. And in this shop mean it was just tables filled with diamonds and gold and jewels. And the shopkeeper gave him bags and he said, take, this is for you. And he started loading up his bags and he walked out of the store. And in his dream, he was just ecstatic that he was rich beyond anything he could have imagined. And a roommate woke him up and he was so disappointed and was even in a little bit of depression when he realized that that dream wasn’t real.
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And then a couple nights later, he had another dream and that that shopkeeper was standing in a throne room and he realized that that shot keeper was Jesus. And Jesus said, come to me. And this individual, one of the things in the Muslim faith, there is not a completed sufficient work of Christ to cover in atone for sins. It is much more like a work-based theology. And so he said, I can’t. I’m sinful. And in his dream, his sin, actually, he was wearing his sin almost like it was skin. And Jesus said to him, I forgive you. And he looked down and this physical manifestation of the sin started to fall off of his body. And he woke up and he realized, okay, I need to know who this Jesus is. And he started engaging with the church and came to faith in Christ, began working with refugees from his country that were living.
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And the church in this country that he’s originally from has issued several death proclamations against him. Not only him but his wife and also his newborn son. I first met him on, it was a Wednesday and literally the day before the church in his birth country had just issued their fourth proclamation calling for his death. They sent people across the border, they’ve attacked him, he had been knifed, and his wife and children opened doors, has helped provide some safety and security for while he continues to minister to refugees and bring them to faith in Christ, open doors has continued to support him in that work that he’s doing. So just neat to see that Christ wants to be known and Christ is going to great lengths to call people unto himself. And again, Christ’s spirit is active and is working in these places and all that the enemy may seek to do to extinguish the light of the church. We know that the church may come under duress, though the church may come under persecution. We know that Jesus themselves said that not even the gates of hell are going to prevail against the church. And we see that we have the privilege of walking alongside and being part of that church that not even the gates of hell are prevailing against.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (30:18):
That’s awesome. It’s so wonderful to hear a story of a Muslim who comes to know Jesus as their Lord and Savior. My parents worked for 12 years in Kabul, Afghanistan, and so we love Muslims and we love praying for Muslims. And Jesus is doing a great work among many Muslims around the world. So thank you Mr. Ryan so much for being on the Evangelism podcast. Really appreciate you,
Ryan Brown | CEO of Open Doors (30:48):
Daniel. Thank you for what you’re doing just to call people into evangelism and to recognize it’s not just a side satellite activity, but it’s core to who we are. It’s core to what Christ has called us to. And so thank you for the work that you continue to do.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (31:05):
Yes, sir.
Evangelism Podcast Host (31:06):
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Evangelism Podcast Host (33:29):
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Evangelist Peter Kalagi from Uganda has been involved in extensive evangelism efforts across Uganda and other parts of Africa, including street preaching, feeding programs, and revival meetings. He had a powerful encounter with Jesus at the age of 14 that led him to pursue full-time ministry, though he initially resisted this calling. Peter Kalagi is now focused on a campaign called “I Am a Soul Winner”, seeking to inspire and equip more Ugandan believers to engage in evangelism and reach the lost.
Learn more about Peter Kalagi: https://enjiricenterministries.org/
Transcript:
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (00:00):
Welcome to the Evangelism Podcast. I’m Daniel King. I’m excited about telling people about Jesus today. I have a very special guest with me, Peter from Uganda. And can you please say your last name?
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (00:13):
Peter Kalagi
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (00:15):
Okay. So tell me, what are you doing for God in Uganda?
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (00:21):
I do the work of evangelism.
(00:24):
I evangelize, we do quite a number of things. We do capacity building, we do street preaching, we do kids feeding, we do revival, prayer summits. And we recently, we started a fellowship in Ginger City where we have over 400 plus people come. We meet once a month, every second years of the month. And this is also a platform where God is redefining Destin of so many believers in the city of Jinja. And we believe that being that Jinja is where the source of the nano starts from Uganda, it goes all the way to Egypt. So I believe that there is a great move of, God is going to hit the entire continent of Africa, and God is changing the trend before, especially in Africa, we’ve been receiving the gospel from the Europe, from guys like you. They’ve been coming to Africa. And you remember that the Ledan bank said that Africa shall be saved. And I believe that God is raising missionaries from Africa to Europe now. So I believe that there is a great move of God that is hitting Uganda and it’s going to go across the continent of Africa. Yes sir.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (01:50):
And so tell me, how did you know that you were called to be an evangelist? What’s your testimony?
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (01:57):
My testimony at the age of 14, Jesus appeared to me. I was staying with my auntie from the side of my mom. I lost both my parents when I was young. I grew up with a strange, strange way. Life wasn’t that easy for me at all. I ended up being a houseboy in a family where I felt that they were going to take care of me. So Jesus appears to me at the age of 14, and I remember that entire night, the full night, like an overnight when I woke up, they told me, Peter, you’ve been praying the entire night. I’m like, I’ve been sleeping. No, we had you pray all night. And guess what? I was seeing a vision of Jesus. I was like, when? Every time I talk about it’s like it happened yesterday, five minutes back. So God called me in two minutes at the age of 14.
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And that it’s one of the challenging moment for me because I didn’t want to go and do ministry. I didn’t want to just be in ministry. So after some time I started going to church, a local church. I was staying in a village called Kenya. That’s where I was raised up. So I started joining a local church, but later alone, I wanted to do business. So I quit the ministry staff. I’m like, I don’t want this stuff. Let me maybe make money. I supported Venice till 2016. You know what happened? I went to one of the Arab countries to make money. I almost died from that country. I won’t mention the name. I was poisoned. I repented and I told God, if you ever give me a chance, please, I will serve you the rest of my life.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (03:46):
So
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (03:47):
God saved me from those country countries. And then I went back to Uganda. Surprisingly, when I left Uganda and went to that country, by the time I came back, they had broke into the house where I was staying. I lost almost everything. I went back to zero. So I discovered that I cannot run away from the coal. I said, God, now you have me. What do you want me do? So he came me a ministry, which I’m running right now in G Center and G stands for Gospel Center. So through that ministry, we reaching out to the schools, reaching out to the community, to the slum areas where people are not willing to go. And even during Covid, I was moving from Uganda to Kenya, Tanzania, those countries I was doing evangels, even in Covid. So
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (04:36):
You’ve been evangelizing in many parts of Africa?
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (04:38):
Yeah, many parts of Africa.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (04:40):
Wow.
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (04:40):
Yeah, even Arab countries as well.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (04:44):
Wow. And what do you see God doing
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (04:50):
In these countries where I’ve been going?
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (04:52):
Yeah, share with me some testimonies of what God has done.
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (04:56):
I remember one of the scenarios when I was in Tanzania, I happened to preach in one of the churches and God connected me to a family. When you go, Jesus met this lady on the well. And the conversation went far and far. And then the lady discovered that this is a prophet. And then she went and brought other staff, other people to hear Jesus. So for me, when I was in Tanzania, I met a bishop. God connected us in a molecular way. So he went to his church, preached there, God performed miracles, signs, and wonders. And then I used to meet people and someone came for prayers. Well, we are praying. He said, Papa, pastor, can you pray for my mother? My mother lives in the us. I’m like, okay, no worries. So they call the mama in the us or when I was talking on the phone, I said, mama, I see you.
(05:56):
You are in Maryland. Say, how did you know? Yes, I’m in Maryland. I’m like, you even have twins. Instant word of knowledge. God has been giving you word, instant word of knowledge. You meet a person, you tell them they’re in the first name. And that has been opening doors for me. Most of the people that have been discouraged, wounded, abandoned, and God, just you bump into someone they don’t know, you speak to them and you give them word of knowledge and then they open up. So now, every time I go to Tanzania, that family hosts me because of that word of knowledge that
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (06:33):
Wow.
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (06:33):
Yeah.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (06:35):
What a great testimony. Now, just recently, Christ for All Nations came to Uganda and did a De Capitalis event, which is multiple
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (06:47):
Crusades
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (06:48):
In different cities. And so I teach every year at the Evangelism Bootcamp that Daniel Kalinda leads with the Christ world Nations. So many of the graduates from the Evangelism Bootcamp went to Uganda. I just finished doing a crusade in partnership with Christ for all nations in Congo. And while I was there, I was hearing so many stories of what God had done in Uganda, and they were just sharing so many testimonies. So I wanted to hear about the miracles and what you saw God do through the eyes of an evangelist from Uganda.
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (07:27):
Yeah. First and foremost, for the first time in history, Chan, they’ve been celebrating 50 years of adversely
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (07:35):
And
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (07:36):
In ministry and also,
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (07:38):
And their goal is to do 50 crusades all over Africa, from Cape Town to Cairo and Reinhard Bonky many years ago, had a vision of Africa, washed in the blood of Jesus. And so like you mentioned earlier, he said all of Africa should be saved. And so to celebrate 50 years, they’re doing 50 crusades this year. And how many took place in Uganda? There were quite a
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (08:03):
Few. 17.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (08:04):
17. Just in Uganda?
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (08:06):
Yeah, just in Uganda.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (08:06):
Wow.
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (08:07):
And it was first time. It was the first time to have such s happening. And Uganda being not like any other country, most of the areas we had distant were far five hours drive, six hours drive. They were not just closed to each
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (08:26):
Other.
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (08:27):
So the team, the standard coin, had to fly in these whole cities in order to accomplish
(08:36):
The assignment. So I’ll talk about the tremendous move of code that happened. First and foremost, the first engagement I was given because I knew Chan, but I never worked with them. And I have coordinated several events work of God in Uganda for other ministries in Kenya and Uganda. So a friend of mine that I went with on a mission in Kenya is the one who connects me, recommends my name to one of the senior directors of Chan. So they needed to have a father’s meeting, a father’s gathering in Kampala to meet all the fathers. And it, it’s not easy. Most we’ve been having challenges where fathers are crashing with one another. So I came on board, they had a list. I’m also come up with a list. So we started to strategize paying a cut service to each one of them. And surprisingly, by the grace of God for the first time in history, for the first time in history, to have all of them in one room, even those that were busy, they had to send their,
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (09:42):
It was a miracle.
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (09:43):
It was a miracle. Actually. One apostle greater apostle called me and said that, you know what, this is not even a miracle. It is awanda
(09:49):
Because they have never seen it. And that is one of the greatest move of SI that brought in Uganda. First of all, they brought reconciliation, they brought peace, love, and harmony in the board of Christ. And it went all over the news, pastors, bishops meeting in one place. So after that, God opened up the hearts of Ugandans and pastors, including the church of Uganda. And every denomination came on board, not for any other business, but for the souls and for the sake of the gospel. And I even the C can say this, for the first time we had the government, the statehouse being involved in the crusades, they offered, the statehouse offered transportation for Daniel Lander. They offered, they cleared the trucks, the VIP, the treatment, everything and the impact, even rain action. Let me say this. The guys who were serving as some of them were serving in the army. And what they have been promoted, yes, they’re been promoted to those who came to serve. Those who are moving with dk, they are promoted right now.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (11:08):
They saw what God was doing
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (11:11):
After two weeks, three weeks here, a guy in the news being promoted by the president. That’s an anointing that came with Chan. And not only that, the wind, there is a wind that has been growing all over Uganda whereby there is an awakening of evangelism. Every church, the pastors, the bishops, denominations have been a awakened to evangelize. You hear, everyone is talking about evangelism. You go now to Kampala, you go to every east, west, north, south. Everyone is talking about evangelism. There is a move and any hunger that cannot be moved, people they own fire to evangelize.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (11:53):
Wow.
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (11:54):
Yeah.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (11:55):
Wonderful. And so what do you see God doing? Lots of people were saved at the Christ for all nations. Crusades
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (12:02):
Over, I don’t want to give wrong, but over 200 plus.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (12:08):
Wow.
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (12:08):
Over 200 plus
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (12:10):
200.
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (12:11):
Yeah. 200,000,
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (12:12):
200,000. Yes. 200 is not very much, but 200,000. Praise the Lord.
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (12:17):
Yeah. 200,000 plus.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (12:19):
Wow.
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (12:20):
Because people came on, all crusades, people came.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (12:23):
Wow. So what role did you play? How did you get to help out?
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (12:28):
Surprising. I don’t know. Dunno how I can say this, but I was almost everywhere. I was almost everywhere. Everything that was happening in computer, we are stuck. Peter, the visa. My visa has linked, someone is coming at the airport. Peter, the police is not doing this, Peter. So for the first time in my life, I had never worked like that. And I wasn’t doing it for money. I wasn’t doing it for pay. People think that, oh, maybe I was paid money to do this. No, I am committed to the work of the Lord. And I made sure that the work of God moves on smoothly, even when my body was, because I reached a point when I was sick, I fall sick. I was on drips. But even the drip could not stop me to go and do ministry. Even when that’s how serious it was. I had to make sure God, Uganda, I was standing there for my country and for the sake of the gospel and for the sake of Africa because I ended up serving everywhere.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (13:32):
Wow.
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (13:33):
Yes sir.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (13:33):
And so even though you weren’t paid, God will reward you for that and he will give you great fruit in your ministry.
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (13:40):
Yeah.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (13:41):
Because that same anointing will come upon your life.
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (13:44):
Yeah. Yeah. Because why did I bring out that? Because most people, when they see big ministry coming, they think of money. They don’t think of winning souls. You get my point. So for me, I was, I’m fully persuaded and focused on winning the lost owe my energy because God is our great reward. You get my point? Because if I didn’t do that, I wouldn’t have met you because that’s the connection. You don’t know how many people have been calling me like, oh, you’ve been working with si. We saw you take this. And because God looked at my heart, it was pure. It wasn’t about anything.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (14:24):
Talk to me about the future. What visions and dreams has God put in your heart? What would you like to see God do through your ministry?
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (14:34):
First and foremost, in 20, in 21, when we are crossing, I think we are coming to 2022. God spoke to me to print out T-shirts written on. I am a solo winner. So we are running a campaign written called I Am a solo winner campaign. Like the book you’ve written?
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (14:59):
Yeah. I wrote a book called Soul Winner or Soul Winning. And we’ve given thousands of those books away all over the world. But just trying to stir up people to have a passion for soul winning. Yes.
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (15:10):
Now it’s almost the same because God told me, just do that. We’ve printed over 1065 T-shirts, those T-shirts. We go on the streets. We’ve given them out in Uganda, Kenya, Tanzania, Ethiopia, us and other countries. But God told me to print 20,000 of them.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (15:32):
Wow.
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (15:33):
So we do that. And people that have been shying away from winning the Lost, when they put on that T-shirt, someone just feel like, I want to go win a song. I want to go win a song. So we are running that campaign every day. I have a team of over 100 people, like guys that are ready that we do. We meet in Jinja, even other places. But mainly now I’m putting a base in Jinja because we started, we launched a fellowship there and on every before the fellowship on Monday, we go on the streets of Jinja. We cover over 17 streets with evangelism, solo winning, going to the streets and the churches joining. It’s a platform that brings everyone to go and win. The lost people are not settling, they are not just now focused on, they are small congregation. They want more to come because there is more. When we go out and we win them, they come to our churches. So that is one of the areas that God has called me. And by his grace, we are pushing on that. And then I am building leaders that are kingdom-minded people who are Kingdom-minded people are willing to go to Egypt. People are willing to go to Pakistan for the sake of the gospel. And this is going to happen in Uganda. God is going to use Ugandans to go to these Arab countries and Europe to bring a revival.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (17:10):
Amen. Well, if someone’s listening and has a heart for Uganda, how can they get in touch with you? What’s your website?
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (17:18):
The website is ww dot jeri center
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (17:27):
Com. You might have to spell Jeri. How do you spell
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (17:29):
It? Jeri. It is E-N-J-I-R-I-C. Center.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (17:41):
And then Center?
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (17:42):
Yes. And then.org
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (17:45):
Center ministries.org?
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (17:47):
Yes. Judy
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (17:49):
Center Ministries Do org.
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (17:51):
Org. Yes. Thank
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (17:51):
You. Okay, wonderful.
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (17:54):
I’m also on the Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (17:59):
Wonderful. Well, brother,
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (18:02):
It’s
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (18:02):
So exciting to hear what you’re doing in Uganda. I celebrate with you,
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (18:06):
And
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (18:07):
Thank you so much for being on the Evangelism podcast.
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (18:10):
Amen. I’m humbled. Thank you so much.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (18:13):
Yes, sir.
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (18:13):
Yeah. Thank you so much for the work you’re doing, and I believe that this is a movement that God is steering up advantage across the globe to move out. I just loved when you’ve been sharing with us, I just loved everything because there is an anointing of multiplication. Like we are deprecating ourselves in so many nations. And this is going to happen. You, you’ll be hearing testimonies upon Testimon. Why? Because God is raising an army that is going to go and win the lost.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (18:51):
Amen.
Evangelist Peter Kalagi (18:52):
Amen.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (18:52):
Well, thank you. God bless you. Bless you too.
Francophone Africa (including countries like Ivory Coast, Togo, Benin, and others) has unique cultural and linguistic differences compared to other parts of Africa. Today, Daniel King talks to Jean-Claude Chaffra who has a heart for reaching people in French speaking Africa.
Connect with Jean-Claude Chaffra: https://www.facebook.com/chaffraj
Transcript:
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (00:00):
Welcome to the Evangelism Podcast. I’m Daniel King. I’m excited about telling people about Jesus today. I have a very special guest with me from Francophone Africa. So how do you say your name?
Jean-Claude Chaffra (00:11):
My name is Jean-Claude Chaffra and I’m based in the Ivory Coast (Cote d’Ivoire). And it’s a great privilege to talk about what God is doing in the Francophone Africa.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (00:21):
Alright, so Francophone Africa is very different than the other parts of Africa. What do you think are some of the differences?
Jean-Claude Chaffra (00:33):
The first one will be the language, the culture, and also how we understand and how we do things.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (00:41):
Yeah. And you are connected with the Global Network of Evangelists and representing GNE for Francophone Africa. And tell me some of what God is doing in the areas of evangelism across Francophone Africa.
Jean-Claude Chaffra (01:00):
Thank you for this opportunity. Daniel, the Global Network of Evangelists exists to equip, to raise evangelists, and also to build the network of evangelists within the countries. And so far we have been working in 12 country, 12 francophone country.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (01:21):
Okay. Let’s name off the, what are the Francophone countries?
Jean-Claude Chaffra (01:24):
Look, Francophone country where we are working now, we have Covo, we have Togo, Benin, Nija, Mali, Guinea, RI, we have Cameroon, central Africa Republic, we have Gabon, we also have DRC Congo.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (01:43):
So I was just in Congo, DRC, and I was wishing I knew more French. I was like, I felt like, oh, I don’t know enough French, I only know a few words and I felt lost. It’s
Jean-Claude Chaffra (01:56):
Okay. We are trying from the francophone angle to be able to express ourself in English. It’s not always the case from the English speaking country, but God is working. We have embraced the work of the global network of evangelists and through the training that we organize with the mental guide provided by me trust, we undertake some training called advanced training. And advanced training has been a great tool to revive, to equip, to challenge ordinary believers to start and do the work of an evangelist.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (02:33):
Yeah, the advanced training was written by Ben Jack who’s here with us this week. We’re actually in South Korea at a conference. They’re talking about the billion soul harvest, reaching a billion people for Jesus. And so it’s such a delight to meet you here. We were also last week at the Uzon Conference and you and I actually went out with a small group witnessing in South Korea.
Jean-Claude Chaffra (03:00):
Yes. The aim of the global network is to raise evangelists. We have been seeing all over the US that it has been forgotten, redeem the church. And church people are keeping quiet, not taking advantage of everyday life to share their faith. So it was very great to size this opportunity during Lausanne to express our faith and also reach out to people to present the gospel.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (03:27):
And so tell me a little bit about your background, how you became a believer, and then how you received a call from God on your life.
Jean-Claude Chaffra (03:37):
Thank you. I gave my life to Christ since 31st December, 1990, almost 34 years now. And it came while I was at the Sunday school and come from and home background where my mom was no more in the family and my dad was having another wife. And it was very tough because when my younger sister was misbehaving, they were criticizing my mom. So it has create a kind of bitterness in my heart and sitting in the church and the pastor was preaching, clearly hear the voice of girls talking to me saying that Jean Claude, you can’t love me if you don’t love your sister. And I was like, God, I love you, but I can’t love my sister. She’s so difficult. And it was like, unless you love your sister, you can’t pretend that you love me. So with ts, I came to my need. I confess my sin and I vented him to my heart, praying that I’ll devote my heart to love him and to love my siblings. This is how I gave my life to Christ. And I pray over one year, 12 months for me to have the kind of love that God is having for his people. And since then I’ve started serving.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (04:53):
Wow. And so what about the call for evangelism? What’s on your heart for evangelism?
Jean-Claude Chaffra (05:00):
Since the school, even on grammar school, I’ve been leading student, young people to reach out to others. I came to the university I was doing with the same passion, the same zeal for prayer and also to share the gospel. So it’s like I’ve been serving him since 1995, even though I was still in the grammar school.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (05:25):
Wow. Talk to me about the Ivory Coast. What do you see God doing in the Ivory Coast and what do you think God will do in the future?
Jean-Claude Chaffra (05:36):
It’s good to know that Ivory Coast is located in south in West Africa and we have the heart and we have the calling to send missionary, and this is what you have been doing. The church in Ko Devore, I’ve been sending missionary to Guinea, to Niger, to Mali, to other places, to Senegal, to other places because we are more vibrant in terms of zeal, in terms of engagement. And we have this burden to see all the Francophone Africa being touched by the word of God. So it’s like a responsibility that we are carrying on our shoulders and we are praying and asking God to help us in his way to spread his gospel.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (06:20):
Amen. Well, thank you so much for sharing your heart for Francophone Africa. Let’s finish today by praying for Francophone Africa, but I want to ask you to pray, but pray in French, not in English.
Jean-Claude Chaffra (06:33):
Thank you, Daniel King, for this opportunity.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (07:18):
Amen. Well, many evangelists listen and so just take a moment to invite evangelists to come to Francophone
Jean-Claude Chaffra (07:27):
Africa. This is a great opportunity and I would like to call to each one of you who are listening to what Daniel is sharing through this podcast. Please remember Francophone Africa for long we have been left out and we believe that even the language should not be a barrier. We are desperate to experience a revival. You are desperate to experience the power and the work of God. God is doing something and we’re calling you to be partner to join hand with us. God bless you. Amen.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (07:58):
Thank you for being on the Evangelism podcast. Thank you.
Gerald Bogantes, an evangelist from Costa Rica, has a vision for reaching the youth of Costa Rica and Latin America with the gospel. On January 1st every year, he hosts “Dia Uno” (Day One) to call the youth of Costa Rica to repentance and unity. This event has grown from 4,500 attendees in the first year to over 10,000 in attendance across multiple countries. On today’s episode of the Evangelism Podcast, we learn about how God is moving in Central America.
Learn more about Dia Uno: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100068739000519
Transcript:
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (00:00):
Welcome to the Evangelism Podcast. I’m Daniel King. I’m excited about telling people about Jesus Today. I have a very special guest with me, Gerald Bogantes from Costa Rica. Thank you for being on the Evangelism Podcast.
Gerald Bogantes (00:12):
Oh, thank you, Daniel. It’s such a privilege to be with you and with all the people that are watching
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (00:19):
You. And I have been friends for a long time. I went down to Costa Rica many years ago and you helped to translate for me.
Gerald Bogantes (00:28):
And
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (00:29):
Over the years you’ve actually translated for many great men and women of God who have come to Costa Rica. Who are some of the people that you get to translate four?
Gerald Bogantes (00:38):
Well, Tia Osborne, imagine that’s such a blessing to have been his translator also. Well, I was, and I am still the translator of Cindy Jacobs, Tommy Tini. I even translated from Kenneth Copeland when he came to Costa Rica. Well, many more. Tommy Barnett from the Dream Center and many, well, Marilyn Hickey, even Tia Osborne’s daughter, Laona Osborne was the last one that I translated for.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (01:12):
Wow. So what a privilege. You get to be the voice for all these great men and women of God. But God has given you a tremendous vision for Costa Rica. And the name of your event that you do every single year is Thea Uno, which means day one, and you always hold it January 1st. Talk to me about Dia Uno.
Gerald Bogantes (01:36):
So Dia Uno is a vision from the Lord that the Lord gave me when I was in my home, I was in the living room and in 2009 the Lord spoke to me and said, Gerald, I want you to call upon the youth of Costa Rica. And the funny thing is that he spoke to my heart about a specific date, which was January the first, 2011. So imagine it was two years beforehand. So it was a crazy date because
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (02:01):
How old were you when you received that vision?
Gerald Bogantes (02:04):
Well, I was, I guess in my late twenties, something
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (02:07):
Like that. So you were young, but you were called to reach young people.
Gerald Bogantes (02:11):
Exactly, exactly. And at that moment, I didn’t have a leadership role at national level like I do now. So it was crazy for a young kid to call upon the youth of Costa Rica and to do it in a date, which was really a need is not necessarily the best states to do something because of New Year’s. But the Lord spoke so clearly to my heart that I had to obey his voice. And the Lord even spoke to me about the event’s name called Day one, Theo. And he finally told me about had to do with unity. So I just began to seek the wisdom of different leaders and pastors, and they said, yes, we believe it’s from the Lord because it’s centered in prayer and unity, but why don’t you change the date or maybe do it in a Saturday or whatever. And I just said, I have to be faithful to what the Lord said to me. And some of them really didn’t have a lot of faith. You can’t
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (03:09):
Have diare.
Gerald Bogantes (03:12):
Yes, exactly. And yeah, the is not only day one, not only it’s the first day of the year, but it’s a day of unity that we are one. And there’s many examples in the Bible of not only of unity being part of revival, like Acts chapter two verse one, but also in Nehemiah chapter eight verse one, it says that they were together as one. So when we were about to do the first day one event in 2011, some pastors said, at most you’re going to have 200 young kids, but praise the Lord. We had 4,500 kids in our first day, one.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (03:50):
Wow.
Gerald Bogantes (03:50):
And from that day on every single 1st of January, every year we did day one. I say we did because with the pandemic we had to stop. But now we’re going to do it again next 2025 for January 1st. So we’re going to continue. And the good thing is that the Lord is expanding that vision to other countries now. So it’s a blessing.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (04:14):
Wow. So how many is the most that you’ve ever had at a day one event?
Gerald Bogantes (04:19):
Well, I would say the thing is that obviously the first one was amazing because it was almost 5,000 young kids. But to tell you the truth, I think we can, we have more than that if we include the countries where we have done it in Costa Rica, in Venezuela, in Ecuador at the same time. So maybe 10,000.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (04:42):
Wow. And at day one, what is the focus of the event you’re inviting young people and then what are you talking to them about? What is the spirit saying?
Gerald Bogantes (04:57):
Since it’s mostly targeted towards Christian kids, it’s not too much as an evangelism, but what we do is we motivated, we challenge them to have a lifestyle of evangelism. And really what we do is a day of repentance and humility and just coming before the Lord and saying, Lord, we want to give our lives back to you, and we want to also consecrate the whole year for the Lord. It’s like the first fruit. And after day one, what we have seen is that some of these kids, they have gone into a deeper relationship with the Lord. They want to do evangelism with their churches. And that’s part of what we do after day one. We do evangelism, outreaches. We call upon the youth to do evangelism, outreaches with their schools, with their high schools and also amongst their communities.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (05:53):
Talk to me about evangelism in Costa Rica. Costa Rica is a very unique country, very special country. It has no army. It’s a very peaceful country. It’s very beautiful. A lot of tourists love going down there to see ecotourism. It is got beautiful beaches and stuff, but I would say in some ways it’s more secular than some of the other central American countries. So what are some of the unique challenges of evangelism in Costa Rica? And then what are you seeing God do in evangelism?
Gerald Bogantes (06:29):
Yes. The thing is that compared to central America, Costa Rica has maybe, I don’t know how to say it, but in a sense of people are better off in a sense. And when prosperity comes to a nation, sometimes they forget the Lord a little bit. And we have seen that in a sense of people not being so much in fire for the Lord, maybe they’re not suffering so much of poverty. So they’re like, okay, maybe God is just something that I can put a little perfume here and there a little religious ity in me on Sunday morning. That’s it. So when you have Jesus as just something that you put on Sundays, it’s not a God for you. So maybe you see money being a God. And that’s what we fight against a little bit of the religious spirit or maybe just secularism coming in. We have seen some of the kids saying, well, we don’t need as much religion shot down our throats.
(07:39):
So the way we have fought against that is just telling the kids what we need is revival. So what we need is getting on fire with the Lord. And we have seen great results when we just tell it as it is to the kids and say, do you want to really have the fire of God in your heart? Do you want to see signs and miracles? Do you want to pray for the sick? And they’ll recover. And when they see how God uses them, then they are really on fire with the Lord. And they do want to continue in love with the Lord. But you have to be definitely sold out for the Lord. If you want to do something. Costa Rica, you can’t go just and paint a little bit of religion on the Costa Ricans or the Kos are as they call us, you need to be on fire and you’ll see results.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (08:28):
And so what is the message that God has given you for young people?
Gerald Bogantes (08:34):
Well, the message is one of revival, obviously for the people that they don’t know, the Lord, obviously the message of salvation, the message of love. But for the church itself, for the young kids, what I tell them is that you have to be on fire for the Lord. And just to condense it in a phrase is when you have inner fire, you have outer love. If you have the fire of the Lord, the glory of the Lord inside of you, that is going to come out some way. And the best way is to love others as yourself with the preaching of salvation. So what we have done is we have gone to the universities, and I am also an attorney, so I had to go to university. So I know the secular arena. And even when I was in my university years, we did a drama in front of 800 of my classmates and I was dressed up as Jesus in front of them and I was like, Lord, I’m going to do it for you.
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So I’m going to go all out. And I preach to 800 of my college professors and classmates and people respect that. People respect that. So my message to the youth and to people that hear me is that if you are on fire for the Lord, your life is going to be transformed. You’re going to have the greatest adrenaline spiritually speaking, and it is going to be the best life that you could have. So I really am a preacher that speaks about the love of God, but also that fire of God. We need to be like that prophet that has fire in his bones.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (10:11):
And so are you still practicing law or are you full-time in the ministry?
Gerald Bogantes (10:15):
I’m still practicing law, but really I do it as a tent making process. And the Lord has allowed us to even do ministry almost without any type of restriction. So it’s a blessing. If the Lord ever tells me to leave the practice aside, I’ve done it before. I have quit my job before and I’ve done it to serve the Lord. But in this moment, the Lord has allowed me to even give testimony using my law practice and to finance the ministry. So in this moment, I can go with you to campaigns and I can go with different, like today we are talking from outside the country. For two weeks I’ve been outside just preaching and teaching.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (11:02):
Yeah, we’re at a great conference in Korea. In Korea it’s called the Billion Soul
Gerald Bogantes (11:08):
Harvest.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (11:09):
And they are calling the body of Christ to reach a billion people for Jesus.
Gerald Bogantes (11:16):
And
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (11:16):
So it’s great being here because we’re around lots of ministries that have big vision, but then also very humble people that are in the villages of India or Bangladesh just ministering. And so it’s been very encouraging being here just to see how God is using so many different people, but all of us can unite around this vision of reaching the world for Jesus.
Gerald Bogantes (11:40):
Yes, and I love it. So the Lord has allowed me to even have this ministry of law practice because I can see that also as a workplace ministry. And that has allowed me to be here for two weeks already. And thank God I don’t have any type of hindrance in that sense. So I also encourage people that they don’t need necessarily to have maybe a salary from a church to say that they are full-time ministries. They can be full-time ministries, whatever the way the Lord finances them, if they give it all to the Lord, they’re in full-time ministry.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (12:18):
Amen. What would you say to evangelists in Latin America? One of the themes that we heard last week at the Uzon conference this week too, is that the mission field shall become a mission force. And we see this here in Korea because Korea went through a war where north and South Korea were divided. And at the end of the war, Korea was very poor, extremely poor people working out in the fields, growing rice. And I would say Central America, south America has a lot of poverty like Korea did at that time. But a large number of people here turned to God. And now over 30% of Korea is Christian. And I would say being here, it’s a very modern country. God has really blessed this country, beautiful buildings, everything is clean. The people here are very blessed.
Gerald Bogantes (13:23):
Now
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (13:25):
They have, Korea has now sent out missionaries all over the world. In fact, after the United States, I think Korea is now the number two missionary sending country in the world. I think God wants to do the same thing for Latin America because Latin America has lots of
Gerald Bogantes (13:44):
Fire.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (13:45):
The churches of Latin America, they know how to pray. They have so much fire. And now prosperity is coming to Latin America. I mean, it’s very vibrant, it’s very alive. Economies are growing, but it’s very important that the church doesn’t forget Jesus in the midst of it. But I think what God wants to do is to start raising up more and more missionaries from Latin America that will go to other countries and preach the gospel. What do you
Gerald Bogantes (14:16):
Think? Yes, exactly. I think that if we just see how the Lord is prospering, a country is not just for our own benefit and prosperity and better roads and better economy. No, it’s because of our prayers and just asking the Lord to prosper a country. But it’s mostly to finance the last wave of evangelism and missionary work. And I think we’re in the last day, so we need to see the times. We need to be the sunset bicycler that they knew the times and they knew what Israel had to do. And we need to understand the times. These are the last days we need to, yes. If the Lord prospers us, yes, we have to use those funds to finance the ministry and to do evangelism and to do crusades and to have these outreaches. So really the time is ripe. And we have seen sparks of revival, not only in Costa Rica but in Latin America, and we have to be sure that we take advantage of this revival because this is the last harvest. And I don’t know if we’re going to be here for many years in the sense of the Lord, maybe he is going to tardy a little bit more, but we have to live as if the Lord is coming in two weeks.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (15:37):
Amen. One of the speakers, I forget who it was, but they said, we are marata people, which the word Marta means come Lord Jesus. And so we are eagerly awaiting the second coming of Jesus Christ. And I think Jesus is coming soon, but the greatest harvest of souls in history will happen in just the next few years. And what’s exciting is we are the generation that gets to participate and gets to be a part. And I think this is a very special
Gerald Bogantes (16:08):
Generation. Yes, I love it. And you and I, we were here in Korea evangelizing in the streets, and we have seen results. And people are so open, they really want to have genuine and sincere conversations. If you are genuine in your faith with the Lord, people want to, they see through that. They see if you’re genuine. They see what you have is real. And when you have something that is real and something that is good, they want it also. And I have seen that for my desire for the youth of Latin American, obviously for all the ages, but specifically for the youth, is for them to know the gem of high praise, which is Jesus and for them to share it. If you have that beautiful encounter with the Lord, we have to share it as much as possible. So that’s why I commend you for everything you do.
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Also, Daniel around the nations, and we need you in Costa Rica. So please come. I want to be your translator, but I really think that we need to learn from people like you, from your ministry, king ministries, and thank you also because you today gave us a great teaching on evangelism and resources. And I think it’s part of what we need. And I want to tell you, you didn’t tell me to say this, but I want to ask the sponsors of your ministry and those that join forces with you to continue to do that because we need ministries like you and many others to continue to have that last harvest, to sow that last harvest for the Lord.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (17:39):
Amen. Well, thank you, Gerald. Let’s finish by praying for God to send revival to Latin America. And could you pray for, but pray in Spanish?
Gerald Bogantes (17:53):
Yes. I love it. Thank you. Ate Jesus.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (18:27):
Amen. Thank
Gerald Bogantes (18:29):
You so much. Your best.
Evangelism Coach Daniel King (18:32):
Okay, that’s good. That’s good. Thank you so much.
Gerald Bogantes (18:36):
All right, now.